Major projects surely deal with a significant amount of uploads in an
efficient way.
Vito
Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 17:31 Paulo Santos Perneta <
paulosperneta(a)gmail.com> ha scritto:
I absolutely disagree with this. A Wikipedia sysop do
not necessarily has -
and from my experience, most of the time hasn't - the necessary skills to
deal with copyright.
Best,
Paulo
A domingo, 12 de mai de 2019, 14:35, Vi to <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com>
escreveu:
I wonder wheter local sysops could be allowed to
delete/undelete images
on
commons in order to reduce workload. Most risky
commons' uploads come
from
cw-upload, allow local sysops to handle them
could work.
Vito
Il giorno dom 12 mag 2019 alle ore 15:31 James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com
ha scritto:
> It is hard to get the admin bit there aswell. Is Commons interested in
> having more admins?
>
> James
>
> On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 5:41 AM Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > A couple of years ago a proposed project was for the WMF to pay for
> > access to the Google image matching API access so we could run a
> > copyvio bot on the live new uploads list. Such a bot would not be
> > terribly hard to get working, and would be a great experiment to see
> > if this aspect of the more boring side of sysop tools could be
> > reduced.[1]
> >
> > Not specifically advocating auto-deletion, but daily housekeeping
> > image matches to highly likely copyrighted categories would make mass
> > housekeeping very easy.
> >
> > A separate old chestnut was my proposal to introduce systemic image
> > hashes, which neatly show "close" image matches.[2] With a Commons
hat
on, such a project would be of far more immediate
pragmatic use than
mobile-related and structured data-related projects that seem to suck
up all the oxygen and volunteer time available.
Note that the history of these project/funding ideas is so long, that
several of the most experienced long term volunteers that were
originally interested have since retired. Without some positive short
term encouragement, not only do these ideas never reach the useful
experiment stage, but the volunteers involved simply fade away.
Links
1.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2016/02#Goo…
> > 2.
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae/Imagehash
> >
> > Fae
> >
> > On Sun, 12 May 2019 at 12:21, Amir Sarabadani <ladsgroup(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > IMO commons need either a Clue Bot NG for new uploads or ores
support
for
> > images that might be copyright violation, or both.
> >
> > Best
> >
> > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:10 PM Yaroslav Blanter <ymbalt(a)gmail.com
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Just the active community itself is too small, compared with the
> > amount of
> > > > material it has to deal with.
> > > >
> > > > Cheers
> > > > Yaroslav
> > > >
> > > > On Sun, May 12, 2019 at 1:07 PM Benjamin Ikuta <
> > benjaminikuta(a)gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Is the shortage of admins due to a lack of people willing or
> capable
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > > the job, or increasing difficulty in obtaining the bit?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On May 12, 2019, at 3:55 AM, Tomasz Ganicz <
polimerek(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Well, Actually, at the moment it looks they are all
undeleted.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The good habit - which I was keeping when organizing
several
> > > > GLAM-related
> > > > > > mass uploads - was to create on Commons project page
describing
> what
it
> > > > is
> > > > > intended to be uploaded, preferably in English. Then you can
> create a
> > > > > project template to mark all uploads with them.
> > > > >
> > > > > See:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Partnerships
> > > > >
> > > > > Despite practical issue of avoiding unnecessary clashes with
> Common's
> > > > > admins - creating template and project page helps to promote
you
> > > > project
> > > > > > across Wikimedia communities and may inspire others to do
> something
> > > > > similar.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Commons is indeed quite hostile environment for uploaders,
but
on
> the
> > > > other
> > > > > hand it is constantly flooded by hundreds of copyright
violating
> > > files a
> > > > > day:
> > > > >
> > > > > See the list from just one day:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > >
>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Deletion_requests/2019/05/01
> > > > >
> > > > > so this hostility works both ways - Common's admins have to
cope
> with
> > > > > aggressive hostile copyright violators every day, and after
some
time -
> > > > decide to leave or became being hostile themselves... and the
other
> > > issue
> > > > > is decreasing number of active admins and OTRS agents.
> > > > >
> > > > > I think - sooner or later - all this system - uploads -
screening
> > > uploads
> > > > > by admins, and OTRS agreements - needs deep rethinking.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > niedz., 12 maj 2019 o 10:48 Mister Thrapostibongles <
> > > > > thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> napisał(a):
> > > > >
> > > > >> Hello all,
> > > > >>
> > > > >> There seems to be a dispute between the Outreach and the
Commons
> > > > > components
> > > > > >> of The Community, judging by the article
"Wikimedia
Commons: a
highly
> > > >> hostile place for multimedia students contributions" at the
Education
> > > >> Newsletter
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > >
> >
https://outreach.wikimedia.org/wiki/Education/News/April_2019/Wikimedia_Com…
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> As far as I can understand it, some students on an
Outreach
> > project
> > > > > >> uploaded some rather well-made video material, and
comeone
on
> > Commons
> > > > > >> deleted them because they appeared to well-made to be
student
> > projects
> > > > > and
> > > > > >> so concluded they were copyright violations. But some
rather
> odd
> > > > > remarks
> > > > > >> were made "Commons has to fight the endless stream
of
uploaded
> > > > > copyrighted
> > > > > >> content on behalf of a headquarters in San Francisco
that
> doesn't
> > > > care."
> > > > > >> and
> > > > > >> "you have regarded Commons as little more than
free cloud
> storage
> > for
> > > > > >> images you intend to use on Wikipedia ".
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Perhaps the Foundation needs to resolve this dispute?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Thrapostibongles
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> > > >
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