Hello Tomasz,
Thank you for your answer. In the hypothesis of being the Board, how can one contact it? I do not see any address I could use listed here: https://wikimediafoundation.org/about/contact/
I hope at least some of them are reading this mailing list. They can get back to me, in public or private, and I'll send the case for investigation.
Regards, Paulo
Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com escreveu no dia segunda, 6/05/2019 à(s) 15:57:
It seems that the only body can help with this is WMF Board od Trustees, as Affcom is the advisory committee of the Board, and the Board is the top body legally responsible for the work of entire WMF.
pon., 6 maj 2019 o 15:39 Paulo Santos Perneta paulosperneta@gmail.com napisał(a):
Hi Cornelius,
Apart from the general discussion about the specific role of AffCom, I really would like to know who is the entity overseeing the AFfCom, so
that
I can send an official complaint there about what I believe is a
fraudulent
and out of process sanction. This is not a question for the Roles & Responsibilities WG, as The Land has already noted there.
Since AffCom is an advisory body to the BoT, it doesn't look as if the
BoT
can or should interfere directly on AffCom. But then, who? At the current light, AffCom is looking as a very much unchecked and extremely powerful entity, taking decisions out of process, in absolute secrecy, and issuing decrees without following even the most basic principles of due process. And this is not a theoretical question, it is a practical one. It affects directly not only affiliates, but also members of the community not connected to any affiliate, as I had not any connection to any of the affiliates involved in that case.
And this is not an isolated case. As I told, the accusations made last
year
by AffCom against WMPT never were substantiated, and when a lawyer
finally
looked into them, he come out with exactly the same recommendation and request the chapter made itself to the AffCom, before the whole situation even started. So what was behind those accusations, back then?
It is very easy and comfortable for the WMF/AffCom to blind everything
with
the excuse that the evidence is secret, but that is completely out of process, and against the most elementary principles of Human Rights.
I want to know who planted this false information at the WMF, and why it was not checked by the WMF, to the point that a secret sanction aganitt
me
come to be in place (since when? till when? no idea).
To who should I complaint about this?
Paulo
Cornelius Kibelka cornelius.kibelka@wikimedia.de escreveu no dia segunda, 6/05/2019 à(s) 14:14:
Hi all,
I think these are good and relevant questions, but I'd suggest you keep
the
discussion where it's best placed – on the talk page of the Roles & Responsibility scoping document talk page:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/201...
Paulo has already started a discussion over there. Kirill, it would be great if you could add your opinion and experience there as well.
Best regards Cornelius
On Mon, 6 May 2019 at 15:11, Kiril Simeonovski < kiril.simeonovski@gmail.com> wrote:
P.S. I would also like to add the other committees in the movement
such
like the grantmaking committees. My first go would be the Board of
Trustees
but it is better to see if someone who knows exactly can provide more details.
Best, Kiril
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 3:03 PM Kiril Simeonovski < kiril.simeonovski@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Paulo,
This is an excellent question. I am curious to find out that too.
Best, Kiril
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 12:13 PM Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> wrote:
Actually, I'm not familiar with this specific situation as well,
apart
from having been informed by my affiliate that WMF had informed it I
was
under
some sanction that probably I was unaware of, related to
affiliates
I
was
not part of and episotes I do not took part.
This is an outraging, appalling and unbelievable behavior from the Wikimedia Foundation in general, and AffCom in particular. I
really
would
like to get to the bottom of this, and more than have it
reverted, I
actually want to know who planted the false information about me
there
which led to this situation.
I hope there is some way to effectively and officially demand and
internal
inquiry inside the Wikimedia Foundation over this situation.
Best, Paulo
Benjamin Ikuta benjaminikuta@gmail.com escreveu no dia segunda, 6/05/2019 à(s) 10:20:
> > > > I'm not familiar with this specific situation, but I agree that
more
> transparency and accountability would be good. > > > > On May 6, 2019, at 12:40 AM, Paulo Santos Perneta < paulosperneta@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > A few days ago the Wikimedia affiliate I belong to was
officially
> informed, > > by a WMF source, that I'm being subject to a until now unknown sanction, > > with an accusation from AffCom I can only describe as baseless
and
> > fraudulent, relating to a a situation between two affiliates,
dealt
with > by > > AffCom more than one year ago, of which I was never part of,
occurred
> more > > than one year ago. I was never informed of this. > > > > This is not the first time AffCom engages in this sort of
appalling
> > behavior. As far as I know, WMPT is still waiting for the
accusations
> made > > by AffCom last year, which led to its suspension, to be
substantiated.
> > AffCom never substantiated anything related to that, with the
excuse
of a > > need for secrecy. > > > > How, I ask you all as members of the Movement, how come the
Wikimedia
> > Movement allowed for such a secretive, arbitrary, apparently
unchecked
> and > > very much powerful institution to grow and thrive like this in
its
> middle, > > overseeing and effectively controlling the relation of all of
us
(both
> > affiliates and individuals) and the WMF? > > > > More important than that, what can be done about this? Where
one
can
> appeal > > to, when presented with such fraudulent, baseless, secretive, > > unsubstantiated accusations by a body which was supposed to be
above
all > > suspicion? > > > > Can an internal inquiry be demanded somewhere at the Wikimedia Foundation > > over the activities and decisions of AffCom, in the same way
we
do
with > > suspicious activity by checkusers and supervisors, with the
Ombudsman
> > Commission? > > > > Looking forward for any help and insight on this, > > > > Paulo - DarwIn > > Wikimedia Portugal > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org > > Unsubscribe:
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