Yes, like Samuel I'm excited to see some experimentation with alternative (and hopefully better) mediums for community engagement.
Adrian Raddatz
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 7:05 PM Samuel Klein meta.sj@gmail.com wrote:
I love the idea of experimenting like this. More like this please. The simpler and lighter weight experiments can be (w little drama ;) the more of possibility space we can explore.
And that's a space we should all be excited by.
On Wed., Jun. 26, 2019, 12:47 p.m. Quim Gil, qgil@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hi, thank you for your feedback about Wikimedia Space.
So far, there have been many comments focusing on _who_ has released
_what_
and _how_. Let me tell you _why_ we are proposing Wikimedia Space. People agreeing on _why_ can agree on the rest way easier.
Wikimedia Space is all about Wikimedia growth. If you are supporting newcomers or you are contributing to the growth of the Wikimedia movement in other ways, we are very interested in your opinions, your suggestions, your needs. And we are especially interested in hearing from you if you
are
a promoter of movement diversity and/or part of any kind of group underrepresented in Wikimedia.
Why Wikimedia Space, in more detail:
From the Wikimedia movement strategic direction - https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20
- Knowledge equity
From the Wikimedia Foundation medium-term plan -
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Medium-term_plan_2019
- Grow participation globally, focusing on emerging markets
- Thriving movement
- Support to newcomers
- Strong, diverse, and innovative communities that represent the World
- Strong and empowered movement leaders and affiliates
- Safe, secure spaces and equitable, efficient processes for all
participants
I hope this explains our _why_. About some of the points mentioned...
Wikimedia Space is a proposal to the movement in the form of a prototype https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/what-do-mean-here-by-prototype/188/4
.
We believe it will generate interest, feedback, criticism and
contributions
in a number of ways that a text-only proposal in (say) Meta Wiki wouldn't achieve.
For instance, while we discuss here in a black & white and text-only environment, more than 60 colorful users have signed up already and Wikimedia Space and are getting their own impressions about it. https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/u .
Or for instance, several event organizers just signed up and added their event to the Wikimedia Space map, which, if you ask me, after just one
day
already looks fresh, beautiful and interesting: https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/c/events/l/map
We are happy to discuss possibilities for connection / integration / migration between Wikimedia Space and existing community channels. As a matter of fact, wikimedia-l could potentially benefit from the features offered by Wikimedia Space (a conversation started in this list by volunteers years ago):
https://discuss-space.wmflabs.org/t/integrating-mailing-lists-to-wikimedia-s...
Wikimedia Space doesn't prevent improvements in Meta or other places. If anything, we believe it will become an incentive for improvements in all community channels willing to keep up. In our opinion, potential improvements in Meta shouldn't prevent the release of Wikimedia Space.
What
you see today is the result of about three weeks of part time work by
four
people. Now consider how much time would it take to discuss, agree, resource and implement an equivalent feature set in MediaWiki, and (just
as
important) equivalent social expectations and norms in the Meta
community.
We are just starting to promote Wikimedia Space. Yesterday we did an initial announcement to get a first wave of users, see how the prototype would take hold, and gauge the initial response. We plan to continue promoting Wikimedia Space in more channels. In fact, you can help. If
there
is a channel missing, please point to its URL, or (even better) feel free to forward the announcement yourself.
If you have found an actionable problem, we welcome bug reports and
feature
requests: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/space/
We encourage you to give Wikimedia Space a try. Even if today someone remains unconvinced, signing up won't hurt them. Then give it a week, and let us know. We really mean it! Prototypes always contribute to better discussions.
Best regards,
Quim Gil Senior Manager of Community Relations @ Wikimedia Foundation https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Qgil-WMF _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
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