On 26.06.19 01:22, Yair Rand wrote:
בתאריך יום ג׳, 25 ביוני 2019 ב-18:02 מאת Lucas Werkmeister < mail@lucaswerkmeister.de>:
On 25.06.19 23:18, Yair Rand wrote:
So far outside Wikimedia spaces that the only place it was even _announced_ was an off-wiki
mailing
list?
Where would you have announced it, then? I asked for a movement-wide announcement place a while ago in a different context [1] and got no satisfactory answer; the most popular one was wikimedia-l (this list), and the only on-wiki answers were “the village pumps” (i. e. scattered) – with the caveat that you should translate your message first, which doesn’t scale well. I’m not saying the Space shouldn’t have been announced anywhere else, but it certainly seems to me that there is a need for a space like it, and in particular I don’t understand why you criticize the choice of wikimedia-l for the initial announcement when there seems to be good consensus for it being a central movement announcement and discussion platform.
I would have publicly announced it at least on the place that it's trying to replace: Meta-wiki.
Sorry if this sounds like I’m just repeating the question, but where on metawiki specifically? Because there’s no such thing as a village pump there, as far as I’m aware – a page titled Village pump [1] exists, but it’s just a redirect to Wikimedia Forum [2], which is described as “a central place for *questions and discussions* about the Wikimedia Foundation and its projects” (emphasis mine). It’s not a place for announcements, and there are no other announcements on it, so I certainly wouldn’t expect the Wikimedia Space announcement to be there. Meta:Discussion pages [3] also emphasizes that Wikimedia Forum is a page about the Wikimedia Foundation, whereas Wikimedia Space should be, as I understand it, a movement-wide thing (though initiated by the Foundation).
I maintain that there is no single on-wiki place for movement-wide announcements like this, and wikimedia-l is currently the most obvious venue; and since Discourse can offer several improvements over a mailing list (no need to set up a pseudonymous email if you want to remain anonymous, and it’s easier to follow a discussion without subscribing to the list), I’m excited about the possibilities this brings.
Cheers, Lucas
PS: Minor note about the automatic promotion on Discourse – to my own surprise, I earned level 1 just a few minutes after sending my other email. It’s a much lower barrier than autoconfirmed status :)
[1]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump [2]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Forum [3]: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Meta:Discussion_pages