All,
A suggestion that I think might help to focus the discussion.
I suggest that anyone who wants to discuss what Fram might or might not
have done, and whether or not some acts that Frame might or might not have
done, or failed to do, merits the punishment that has been meted out should
refrain from doing so. Since no-one with reliable information about
exactly what the complaints to T&S were is going to post here, and no-one
who posts here has any reliable information about them, all such
discussions here are based on guesses, assumptions, rumours or
confabulations, and can be of precisely no value whatsoever.
Thrapostibongles
On Tue, Jun 11, 2019 at 4:26 AM Techman224 <techman224(a)techman224.ca> wrote:
Forwarding to WIkimedia-l since WikiEN-l is relatively
dead.
Since this message, an Arbcom member (SilkTork) stated that they weren't
consulted, nor did this action was the result of Arbcom forwarding a
concern to the office. [1]
The only non-response excuse from the WMF [2] was that "local communities
consistently struggle to uphold not just their own autonomous rules but the
Terms of Use, too.” even though there were no complaints on-wiki nor to
Arbcom privately.
The on-wiki discussion is taking place at the Bureaucrats and the Arbcom
noticeboards.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fra…
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats'_noticeboard#User:F…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Committee/Noticebo…
[1]
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Commi…
<
https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Arbitration_Commi…
[2]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#Statemen…
Techman224
> Begin forwarded message:
> From: George Herbert
<george.herbert(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Fram en.wp office yearlock block
> Date: June 10, 2019 at 8:54:34 PM CDT
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
> In case you're not following
on-wiki - Office S&T blocked English
Wikipedia
user / administrator Fram for a year and
desysopped, for unspecified
reasons in the Office purview. There was a brief statement here from
Office regarding it which gave no details other than that normal policy
and
> procedures for Office actions were followed, which under normal
> circumstances preclude public comments.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Bureaucrats%27_noticeboard#User:Fra…
> Several people on Arbcom and board
have commented they're making private
> inquiries under normal reporting and communication channels, due to the
> oddity and essentially uniqueness of the action.
> There was an initial surge of dismay
which has mellowed IMHO into "Ok,
> responsible people following up".
> I understand the sensitivity of some
of the topics under Office actions,
> having done OTRS and other various had-to-stay-private stuff myself at
> times in the past. A high profile investigation target is most unusual
but
> not unheard of.
> I did send email to Fram earlier
today asking if they had any public
> comment, no reply as yet.
> --
> -george william herbert
> george.herbert(a)gmail.com
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