if Fram was not an admin, all these discussions would not have been done)
[citation needed]
I don't think this is entirely incorrect. Chances are that people would not
notice or care if Fram was not an admin.
Isaac
On Fri, Jun 14, 2019, 2:05 PM Martijn Hoekstra <martijnhoekstra(a)gmail.com
wrote:
if Fram was not an admin, all these discussions would
not have been done)
[citation needed]
why we (other users) have allowed such an attitude without intervening to
stop it.
Camelia
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Il giorno ven 14 giu 2019 alle ore 14:32 Mister Thrapostibongles <
thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> ha scritto:
Fæ
[...] the pre-existing understanding that the WMF do not replace
existing and perfectly adequate community agreed
procedures for
banning bad behaviour on our projects.
Unfortunately, there is ample evidence that the existing English
Wikipedia
community processes are not "perfectly
adequate" for that purpose.
If the English
Wikipedia's policies are not fit for purpose, or implementation of
policy is incompetent, we need a much bigger discussion
Indeed. Unfortunately the tone of the discussion here and at
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Community_response_to_the_Wikimedia…
> suggests
> that the requisite discussion is now less, not more, likely to happen
or
be
productive.
Thrapostibongles
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