This seems like a mighty menacing line of discourse, coming from someone in
a position to initiate a block. I don't think I should participate in any
WP or WMF or Commons or WikiData discussions if such menace is the norm.
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019 at 8:05 PM Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanineil(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
It wasn't hostile Pine, but it wasn't a great
idea to call out one of the
few women on the chain for assuming bad faith given some of the other
statements and assertions on the thread.
I did not make any assumptions on the motivations of those who take part in
the on wiki discussions, I just stated that the results were often hostile
environments which make engagement difficult or intimidating. And then I am
name checked for making this rather mundane and oft cited issue. It was
just a poor choice given the circumstances overall.
I don't take part as a I don't want my "card to be marked" or have
certain
editors monitoring my on wiki contributions based on assumptions made about
me and my editing motivations.
On Thu 13 Jun 2019, 00:33 Pine W, <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sorry if my post sounded hostile. I wish
that I knew what to say.
Pine
(
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
On Wed, Jun 12, 2019, 16:19 Rebecca O'Neill <rebeccanineil(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Pine,
While I appreciate your attempt at guidance here, given some of the
messages in the chain the fact that you are calling me out as assuming
bad
faith out of all the participants does not
inspire me to take part at
all.
>
> Thanks, but I feel that I might just go back to deleting these onerous
> threads as has been my custom in the past rather than be singled out in
> such a manner.
>
> If I had wanted to be tone policed o would have engaged with the
on-wiki
conversation.
Rebecca
On Wed 12 Jun 2019, 23:58 Pine W, <wiki.pine(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Rebecca,
>
> These conversations can be stressful for many of us, including me.
>
> Speaking up in public can take courage. Thank you for participating
here,
> and I encourage you to continue to
participate even if you are in the
> minority regarding a certain discussion.
>
> I know that this can be difficult to do, and it's sometimes difficult
for
> > me to do, but please be careful about linking strong opinions with
> assuming
> > bad faith on the part of the people who state those opinions.
Sometimes
>
there are good reasons for assuming bad faith, but I think that it's
easy
> for many of us, including me, to rush to the
conclusion that someone
who
> disagrees with me may be acting in bad
faith.
>
> I am sorry if you feel that you are not welcome here. Public
discussions
> can be rough, but personally I think that
they are usually for the
best.
> >
> > I hope that my comments here are somehow encouraging.
> >
> > Pine
> > (
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine )
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