Wiki Journals use CC BY SA. We do not support or want
to us ND as that
would prevent translation into other languages. That is why I disagree with
Plan S's move to allow ND.
James
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 9:08 AM Vi to <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
En.wikiversity user I'm dealing with was a
custodian (in other words a
well
established user within the community).
Keeping it short my main concern is: we are a naturally democratic
community, while the science cannot be. Also, we've been attracting low
quality "research" for years.
Vito
Il giorno lun 3 giu 2019 alle ore 16:36 James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com>
ha
scritto:
The peer review process and the editors of the
journals in question.
This
is the same mechanism that prevents gibberish
from getting into all peer
reviewed literature.
J
On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 6:30 AM Vi to <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> In years I've seen countless attempts to put gibberish on our projects
> which were eventually defeated by the "no original research"
principle.
> Even en.wikiversity struggled with a now
banned user (and his
> friends/enablers) pushing lots of gibberish about cold fusion,
paranormal
> and Wikimedia user themselves. So I ask,
what will prevent this kind
of
> gibberish from slowing infiltrating such
project?
>
> Don't get me wrong but I think this is the first question in order to
> define a "business model" for the project: why would a "serious"
research
> group choose to publish there instead of
already existing OA journals
or
classical
PR journals?
Vito
Il giorno lun 3 giu 2019 alle ore 04:16 Thomas Shafee <
thomas.shafee(a)gmail.com> ha scritto:
> Yes, we put together a little checklist back in round one (*link*
> <
>
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/Talk:WikiJournal_User_Group#Notes_on_Plan_S…
> > >
> > ).
> >
> > Initially there were a few items that are currently not achieved
(e.g.
>
JATS-compliant XML formatting). The revised Plan_S has reduced
stringency
> > and all the items that weren't hit happen to be optional. That being
> said,
> > things like JATS-compliant XML and citation metadata would be
valuable
to
> > implement anyway for machine readability.
> >
> > Thomas
> >
> > On Mon, 3 Jun 2019 at 04:53, James Heilman <jmh649(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> > It already is Plan-S compliant :-)
> >
> >
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plan_S#Licensing_and_rights
> >
> > Plan-S unfortunately is looking at allowing ND content.
> >
> > James
> >
> > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 8:14 AM Mister Thrapostibongles <
> > thrapostibongles(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Thomas
> > >
> > > Is it intended that the journals should be Plan-S compliant?
> > >
> > > Thrapostibongles
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 2, 2019 at 9:01 AM Thomas Shafee <
thomas.shafee(a)gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello Wikipedians,
> > > >
> > > > Over the last few years, the WikiJournal User Group
> > > > <https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group> has
been
> > > building
> > > > and testing a set of peer reviewed academic journals on a
mediawiki
> > > > platform. The main types of
articles are:
> > > >
> > > > - Existing Wikipedia articles submitted for external review
and
> > > feedback
> > > > (example <https://doi.org/10.15347/wjs/2018.006>)
> > > > - From-scratch articles that, after review, are imported to
> > Wikipedia
> > > (
> > > > example <https://doi.org/10.15347/wjm/2018.001>)
> > > > - Original research articles that are not imported to
Wikipedia
> > > (example
> > > > <
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_of_Medicine/Acute_gastrointesti…
> > > > > >
> > > > > )
> > > > >
> > > > > *Proposal: WikiJournals as a new sister project
> > > > > <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiJournal>*
> > > > >
> > > > > From a Wikipedian point of view, this is a complementary
system
to
> > > > Featured
> > > > > article review, but bridging the gap with external experts
> > > > > <
> >
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Peer_reviewers
> > > >,
> > > > > implementing established scholarly practices
> > > > > <
> > >
>
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Ethics_statement
> >
> >,
> > > > and generating citable, doi-linked publications
> > > > <
https://en.wikiversity.org/wiki/WikiJournal_User_Group/Publishing
>.
> > > >
> > > > Please take a look and support/oppose/comment!
> > > > All the best,
> > > > Thomas Shafee
> > > >
> > > > ps, We are attempting to improve awareness within the existing
> > wikimedia
> > > > community, so feel free to share with others.
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