Hi Micru,
How about documenting your insights on here. I know a number of people in
the Roles & Responsibilities group have been reading with interest, thank
you very much for sharing.
Chris
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 4:23 PM David Cuenca Tudela <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
@Benjamin: It is already there, as answer to Farkhad.
@Ziko: I have no idea where to store this. If you find a suitable place,
please go ahead and let me know.
Regards,
Micru
On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 3:11 PM Ziko van Dijk <zvandijk(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, maybe there is a suitable place on Meta
Wiki to conserve this?
Later
it will be a little bit difficult to find it
again on a mailinglist.
I myself find this point of view of "outsiders" very interesting and
worth
to notice e.g. in strategic discussions.
Kind regards
Ziko
Am Mo., 18. Feb. 2019 um 11:41 Uhr schrieb David Cuenca Tudela <
dacuetu(a)gmail.com>gt;:
> Hi Bodhisattwa,
>
>
> *Governance recommendation *
> I assisted to a session on sociocracy organized by the Transition
Network
that
basically blew my mind. The speaker explained how for her it has
been
> always difficult to participate in decision-making because she feels
that
she is a
very vocal person, and she felt that with democracy it was
mostly
about taking sides and wining or losing, which
was quite disappointing
for
her. Then she started to explain the sociocratic
principles of decision
by
> consent, and what does that mean.
>
> What is interesting about sociocracy itself, is not the process or the
> method, but how it challenges the participants to truly understand the
> meaning of a decision, and their own relationship with it. Objections
are
> seen as a gift that will help improve the
proposal, once they have been
> properly understood. Normally it takes effort from the participants to
> address their own personal issues as well, because they have an impact
on
> how the group can operate.
>
> Trust can be built during in person sessions, and it is necessary for
the
group to
operate smoothly. Sociocracy is not for people who like to
accumulate power, or are not able to share power with others, and that
can
drive people away. On the other hand, those who
stay feel more included
and
supported by the organisation. There is also an
element of celebration,
which sometimes we forget. Taking decisions is hard work, and we should
celebrate when we reach one.
Sociocracy it is easy to grasp, but difficult to master. The members of
the
> Transition Network had to undergo a training during a long time at the
> Université de Nous, to become proficient in this method. There is also
a
> software that assists self-organization:
https://www.holaspirit.com/
>
> Regards,
> Micru
>
> On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 8:45 AM Bodhisattwa Mandal <
> bodhisattwa.rgkmc(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Micru,
> >
> > I am interested about your thoughts about governance recommendation
for
the
> movement and community model of affiliates.
>
> Regards,
> Bodhisattwa
>
>
> On Mon, 18 Feb 2019, 12:14 Фархад Фаткуллин / Farkhad Fatkullin <
> frhd(a)yandex.com wrote:
>
> > Micru,
> > I would be interested to learn about "External perception of the
> > movement".part of your insights.
> > Thanks.
> >
> > from Russia with love,
> > farhad
> >
https://ru.wikimedia.org/wiki/Smart_region
> >
> > --
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/
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WMRU:
>
>
> 18.02.2019, 02:35, "David Cuenca Tudela" <dacuetu(a)gmail.com>om>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Last Friday I participated in a workshop in Brussels where people
from
> > > different NGOs met to learn from each other to foster flat,
> > > democratic, and diverse organisations. I was one of four speakers
in
> a
> > > > "world cafe" format (basically a circle where participants
can
> > > > interact with the speaker). I represented the Wikimedia movement
in
> > > > general, with the intention
that participants would learn from
our
> > > > movement, and so that I would
learn from them. There were also
Open
> > Space sessions.
> >
> > If there is interest, I can share with you my insights on any of
these
> > topics:
> > > - External perception of the movement
> > > - Recommendations to the WMF
> > > - Governance recommendations for the movement
> > > - Community model for affiliates
> > > - How to increase diversity
> > >
> > > There is a lot to say about each topic, so please ask only about
the
> > > > topic you have genuine interest in. If there is no interest, I'm
ok
> > > > keeping it to myself.
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > > Micru
> > > >
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