The WMF should not sort out any demarcation issues. In fact, it should not
sort out anything at all in the Movement. The WMF is administered by the
Movement, and it's main purpose and mission is to serve it, not do dictate
anything there. That is a boundary that should never be crossed.
Best
Paulo
Jennifer Pryor-Summers <jennifer.pryorsummers(a)gmail.com> escreveu no dia
terça, 16/04/2019 à(s) 19:27:
Dan
Wikinews may not be doing too well, but (English-language) Wikipedia seems
to have taken up a news-gathering role not entirely consistent with its
encyclopediac mission: perhaps that's the reason. Maybe the WMF should
sort out the demarcation issues.
JPS
On Tue, Apr 16, 2019 at 10:38 AM Dan Garry (Deskana) <djgwiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Splitting off the Wikinews discussion from the
branding discussion...
On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 07:52, Jennifer Pryor-Summers <
jennifer.pryorsummers(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Compared to Wikitribune it is! But more importantly, if Wikinews is
not
thriving,
then why not? Does it lack resources? What could or should
the
WMF do to revive it?
In my opinion, nothing. Wikinews was a nice idea, but it didn't work out,
and I don't think the Wikimedia Foundation investing resources into
trying
to bring it back to life is really worth it. In
fact, I think the
Wikimedia
Foundation isn't the right group to try to
breathe new life into the
project anyway—we, as a volunteer community, could invest our time in
bringing new content into it. That doesn't happen though. Why is that?
For
me, I'm voting with my actions rather than my
words—it's because it just
isn't important enough compared to other things. It's okay to think that.
Also, I'd prefer to see the Wikimedia Foundation trying to do fewer
things
but do them better rather than taking more on; I
think the annual plan
reflects that it is trying to do so.
Perhaps some of the money spent on rebranding
would
be better spent on the projects that are not doing so well as the big
Wikipedias -- or perhaps the WMF should cut its losses and close them
down,
on the principle of reinforcing success instead.
I suspect that significantly less money is being spent on this rebranding
effort than people might think. A short engagement with an external
consultant, and some staff time to think about it and publish some pages
to
solicit comment, is a relatively small investment
compared to what it
might
take to bootstrap improvements to breathe life
into a mostly dead
project.
I don't think it's really helpful to
guess about the cost of things...
yes,
I broke my own rule right at the start of this
paragraph. ;-)
Dan
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