I heartily agree : build that firewall, and let Cisco pay for it !
Wait, what were you suggesting in your incipit ? Oh, right, "a way that's
rational, avoiding to create unnecessary panic of course".
I'd rather not ask of people organizing conventions (which is already
time-consuming by itself) that they *solve terrorism in their town*, which
is what the police are probably more suited for, if you don't mind ; as a
matter of fact, it is not one of their duties as convention holders, plain
and simple, and neither are they doctors, police officers, judges, jesters,
masseuses, nannies, yoga instructors, cooks, indentured servants, etc
(except of course if they are, which may happen).
So let's please not overreact, and stick to the current discussion instead
of having the next WikiConvention in a flying fortress with armed guards,
sniffing dogs, and metal detectors at every door…
Roger / Alphos
2018-04-05 18:40 GMT+02:00 Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <
wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>gt;:
I remember we discussed 2 or 3 years about this
scenario with some
wikimedians off wiki. I strongly support to discuss at least once openly
about that. In a way that it's rational, avoiding to create unnecessary
panic... of course.
Despite the claimed neutrality of the communities, reality always bites.
Now, a terrorist can imagine that we will not put a black banner if someone
kill a lot of people somewhere... but if same amount of wikimedians are
killed at a international rally the probability that a block ribbon, an
editnotice with a statement appear on many language edition is higher. it's
an attack at the community like it is a proposal of a law somewhere, and we
naturally react stronger.
It would be a bigger impact, if you think about it. You can get the
attention of billions of people every time they connect to the 5th or 6th
largest website in the world. Cynically speaking, if you also consider the
facts that it's about free knowledge and volunteers, than a mass murder at
at a wikimedian event might be more "effective" than at a discotheque or
the seat of a multinational conglomerate.
If i remember correctly. in the months before a certain wiki-event, many
people linked to radical activities were arrested in the area, in the same
country. So, when you organize an event, it's not just about safety but
also security. Even if it is not nice to think about it, and of course you
try to do it mostly in private, you should clearly write down at least at a
certain point that you are preparing to all scenario, contacting the police
and so on. it should be a paragraph in a candidature for an event, IMHO.
but it should be done.
A.M.
Il Giovedì 5 Aprile 2018 18:09, Vi to <vituzzu.wiki(a)gmail.com> ha
scritto:
I read/receive related craps
<https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:
Vituzzu&diff=prev&oldid=831949995>
on
a daily basis but it's hard to tell an idiot from a psychopath, so it may
become a risk for WMF offices.
Vito
2018-04-05 17:33 GMT+02:00 Andy Mabbett <andy(a)pigsonthewing.org.uk>uk>:
I'm sure most of you will be aware of the
unfortunate events at
YouTube's HQ a couple fo days ago:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/YouTube_headquarters_shooting
Without giving away anything that might reveal vulnerabilities, does
the WMF have contingency plans for such an incident? What about at
community events in the US, and elsewhere?
--
Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
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