Okey, I may have (or perhaps not) edited a page. Perhaps I have an account on Upwork (or perhaps not). That page may have been edited because I had a discussion with someone at Upwork (or perhaps not). I could also been discussing editing the page at OTRS, but again, perhaps not.
How can you know that? Because I am "jeblad"? What if I am "honky donky" on Wikipedia? Do you really believe that because someone said people doing paid editing should say so actually do so?
From point b on your RfC "but yet there is no account on Wikipedia that
discloses that account", how do you plan on figuring out which account on those two systems are the same? To identify the culprit you must connect two dots, and you don't have enough information about neither of them.
I am on Upwork because a big and rather well-known organization asked me to create an account. I have even edited pages! Yay! Go figure which one, and why! ;p (To make it easy, their initials reads W-M-F, and no it was not about Wikipedia-editing.)
I see all the postings from people that ask for help about their wikipedia pages. People ask for help because the failure of the wikipedia-communities to provide sufficient help. Going after the people that help them is not a good solution, it is (sorry) a stupid solution. If someone ask for help, then help them!
On Thu, Sep 14, 2017 at 2:22 AM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Why? IMO it will protect users from being impersonated.
It will allow us to more easily have taken down Fivver and Upworks accounts that are pretending to be established Wikipedians.
How would this leak anything? People involve with paid editor are already required to disclose the intermediaries through which they work and this does not change that.
James
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:19 PM, John Erling Blad jeblad@gmail.com wrote:
Sorry, bad idea. Can't be done and will only lead to stalking and alienating users. (Or rather it can be done, but would imply leakage of identifiable information to such a degree that it would put the involved organizations on the front pages for weeks.)
John Erling Blad /jeblad
On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 5:40 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com wrote:
Have started a meta RfC regarding the above* here https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_comment/ interlinking_of_accounts_involved_with_paid_editing_to_ decrease_impersonation.*
This is to help address issues of impersonation of established
Wikipedians
by paid editors.
Further thoughts appreciated. Best
James Heilman MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian
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