We need to promote Kiwix - definitely, but should we promote Wikipedia zero? May be not, unless the issue of net neutrality is clearly addressed. We need to remember that some countries had to ban different zero services, as they clearly violated net neutrality and people were against them.
Regards On May 8, 2017 1:23 PM, "Ilario Valdelli" valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
In these cases the big advantage is the capacity to be cloned. A governement can block an ip or a domain but it would be hard to block internet.
The good approach is to invite the web to host kiwix and zim files for downloading. That would be easier than cloning Wikipedia content.
However that approach will save readers but not writers.
Kind regards
Il 07 Mag 2017 23:36, "Gabriel Thullen" gabriel@thullen.com ha scritto:
I agree with James that we need to encourage initiatives like Kiwix Wikipedia Zero. We need to be able to distribute Kiwix in countries that have blocked Wikipedia, because it is no big deal for a government to
block
the Kiwix.org site as well, and phone operators providing Wikipedia Zero will have to obey government injunctions. Chances are that a block on kiwix.org will hardly be noticed by our community. Looks like the good
old
sneakernet with USB flash drives is still a viable option...
Gabe
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 10:50 PM, Dariusz Jemielniak darekj@alk.edu.pl wrote:
Yup. It would be interesting to ponder if wiki app could channel
through
Tor by default - in the spirit of The Guardian project. Informing users about Tor benefits has obvious disavantages related to the fact that
most
people will not be able to grasp it.
Dariusz Jemielniak
On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 9:26 PM, James Heilman jmh649@gmail.com
wrote:
The issues occurring in Turkey highlight that we may also need to
keep
in
mind:
- Access
over the next 15 years. Where access is not only potentially hindered
by
governments but also technical and monetary realities in various
country
and region. We of course have already worked and continue to do work
in
this area with initiatives like Wikipedia Zero and Offline Wikipedia
/
Kiwix.
James
On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 6:25 PM, Katherine Maher <
kmaher@wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Hi all,
*Summary: The report from cycle 1 discussion is online[1]. The
start
of
cycle 2 is delayed until next week.*
Thank you for your contributions! We have been hard at work
reading,
sorting, and summarizing more than 1,800 community member
statements,
from
more than 100 community discussions from across five continents.
Each
of
these statements was a response to the question: "What do we want
to
build
or achieve together over the next 15 years?"
You can find the full report on the major themes, and more details
about
them, in a summarized report on Meta-Wiki.[1]
Some common themes emerged from these conversations:
- Reliable, neutral, high-quality content
- Community health & support
- Internal & external collaboration
- Improved and new features
- Users, editors, & contributors
- Outreach, awareness, & promotion
- Innovation and adaptation
- Funding, staffing, and other organizational needs
- Support for emerging communities
- Advancing Wikipedia in education
- Movement values
- Sustainability & growth
Each of these themes is described in more detail within the body of
the
report,[1] and the full data spreadsheet from this analysis will be
posted
soon.
The movement strategy team has been working to group these themes
together,
so that we have a smaller number of concepts to consider in the
next
cycle.
Because this work is important, we want to make sure the grouping
and
analysis are comprehensive and thoughtful. In order to make sure we
can
get
it right, we’re delaying the start of cycle 2 discussions until
next
week.
As you probably know, the Turkish authorities blocked Wikipedia in
Turkey
this week.[2] We’ve been working around the clock to understand the circumstances and respond appropriately, including appealing in
Turkish
court. We’re grateful to everyone who has reached out to offer us
your
thoughts and perspective. Government limitations on free knowledge
are
just
one of the critical issues that have come up during the movement
strategy
process. As we confront these challenges in real time, it has been
a
reminder for me how important our work is, and how it has very real implications for people around the globe. Again, thank you.
Kendine iyi bak (Turkish translation: “Take care of yourself”),
Katherine
PS. A version of this message is available for translation on
Meta-Wiki.[3]
[1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Cycle_1/Report [2] https://blog.wikimedia.org/2017/04/30/turkish-
authorities-block-wikipedia/
[3] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_ movement/2017/Updates/5_May_2017_-_Update_15_on_Wikimedia_ movement_strategy_process
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