Agreed as well. Anders, that is one of the most sensible posts I've seen on this list in a long time.
Adrian Raddatz
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Peter Southwood < peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
Agreed, Peter
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Anders Wennersten Sent: Monday, 06 March 2017 9:21 PM To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Is the Code of Conduct in force?
We have 61000 editors that made more the 5 edits last month and 8800 making more then 100 edits. Last election to the Board attracted 5500 voters. These figures gives a magnitude of the numbers in the community.
The number of active on this list are around 50-100, and normal participations in meta discussion (except when it was for Visual editor) are at best 100-200.
I truly believe we should not be content to say these 100-200 are the community or spokespersons for the community. And I admire the approach being made by WMF in the strategy project, to actively try to reach out to a broader audience then these 100-200
So I believe her has always been an issue of the dialogue between the community and WMF, both referring to who is the community and the dialogue in itself. But I do see that the approach being taken by WMF now and lately does a lot to resolve this issue and and is worth both praise and support
And I do would like to see less of "We the community" by people on this list
Anders
Den 2017-03-06 kl. 20:07, skrev Rogol Domedonfors:
Gerard
On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:28 AM, you wrote:
For Rogol and Pine I have an additional challenge; when the WMF is to support the community, is their time better spend serving quality or is their time better spend discussing endless procedures that make us stick in the mud as it stifles initiative?
A fallacious dichotomy, as no doubt you were well aware. We need to establish working and workable procedures that allow Community and Foundation to engage together in planning at the level of long-term strategy and medium-term technical roadmap so that the WMF are able to deliver quality products that support the mission effectively. Do you think we have those already? Or do you think we can do without them?
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