A little late into the discussion I just want to note that aside from the factual reservations, which seem to make sense, the overall tone, context and setting of the WMF Annual report is something I wholeheartedly agree with, and I feel that it conveys a sense of urgency on a few fronts that could benefit from more truthfulness.
The world looks quite different when you're contributing to Wiki projects just kilometers away from the bloody civil war in Syria, in a country where freedom of speech is continuously threatened. I for one am happy to be a part of a Movement that will not stay silent in the face of "post-truths" and the growing impediments to basic civic (and other) freedoms.
If this is considered a political statement, so be it.
Ido
On Sat, Mar 4, 2017 at 11:12 AM, Peter Southwood < peter.southwood@telkomsa.net> wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of George William Herbert Sent: Saturday, 04 March 2017 10:47 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] More politics: "WMF Annual Report"
I think that the idea of taking the weekend off from the topic is excellent. We may not have reached universal consensus yet but everything we needed to have said was, and it's been acknowledged as received and under consideration.
Have a good weekend everyone.
-george
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On Mar 4, 2017, at 12:38 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
Rogol,
I don't get the impression that Anna's position is that "everything is all right and that (WMF doesn't) need our help after all". That comment comes across to me as inflammatory and unhelpful.
It seems to me that Anna is interested in improving the situation rather than having a battle with the community. I'd like to let the improvement process happen. Please have some patience, and let's be grateful that WMF is trying to make the situation better. I would rather see a thoughtfully re-designed report in 2 weeks than pour gasoline on the fire and have another report come out on Monday that
also has problems.
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