Hoi,
Please explain..
To me it is not politica but Common sense.
Thanks,
GerardM
Op wo 1 mrt. 2017 om 22:18 schreef Rogol Domedonfors <domedonfors(a)gmail.com>
It seems to be in line with the new Values statement: "we seek to
continually improve ourselves, our projects, our communities, our world".
Of course that's political.
"Rogol"
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 8:15 PM, Lodewijk <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>
wrote:
I didn't see the banner, but the page definitely
looks... 'funny'.
I'm especially confused on what the purpose of the campaign/page is, even
after reading the different sections. It mostly feels either like a
political statement about refugees (which takes very clearly center stage)
or an 'unfinished' page which is work in progress. The landing page is
confusing (why am i taken there? What am I supposed to discover?), the
'refugees' banner is repeated on each page (which seems to emphasize it
should be the focus) and there's a few (minor) errors to be improved
(visible paragraph separator characters in the sustaining donor list, the
balance sheet is claiming to span a whole year).
Is this perhaps still work in progress?
On the visual end, it looks great though. I love the chatting group of
Wikipedians as a background.
Best,
Lodewijk
2017-03-01 20:59 GMT+01:00 Joseph Seddon <jseddon(a)wikimedia.org>rg>:
Hi James.
You can find out more about the Endowment here:
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Endowment
Seddon
On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 7:54 PM, James Salsman <jsalsman(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> The statements Yair quoted are appropriate unless you believe
> "empower" in the Foundation's Mission statement merely means
"enable"
> or "facilitate," without regard to economic or political power, so
I'm
> very glad to see them, as I am to see all of the eleven sections in
>
https://annual.wikimedia.org/2016/consider-the-facts.html
>
> Yair omitted mention of the descriptions of how, in each of those
> eleven cases, our volunteers are using Foundation projects to address
> the identified issues. Those who think discussion of these issues
> should be suppressed or are cause to leave could talk with the
> volunteers whose work has been profiled so that both sides can
> understand the motivations and concerns of the other. Maybe Roxana
> Sordo or Andreas Weith are on this list and can address the concerns
> raised about the description of their work directly? In any case, free
> culture isn't compatible with prohibition of discussion and
> censorship. And the impulses toward such suppression aren't rational,
> given the extent to which the human endocrine system regulates
> personal, group, hierarchical, and reciprocal relationships, as shown
> in Table 1 on page 192 of Daphne Bugental's (2000) "Acquisition of the
> Algorithms of Social Life: A Domain-Based Approach," in Psychological
> Bulletin 126(2):187-219, at
http://talknicer.com/Bugental2000.pdf
>
> Regarding the Annual Report financials, it looks like the investment
> income the Foundation is earning has fallen below 1%. I don't think
> it's fair to donors to hold $47 million dollars in cash and
> equivalents as per
https://annual.wikimedia.org/2016/financials.html
> -- Are people waiting for the Endowment Committee to meet before
> investing? Does anyone know when the Endowment Committee will ever
> meet?
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 11:58 AM, Yair Rand <yyairrand(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> > An unscheduled CentralNotice just
started running, linking to a
rather
> > bizarre page [1]. Purporting to be the
WMF's 2016 Annual Report, it
> starts
> > off with some text about refugees. "FACT: Half of refugees are
> school-age",
> > followed by some completely unencyclopedic text about the topic:
"That
> > means 10 million children are away from
their homes, their
communities,
> and
> > their traditional education. Each refugee child’s experience is
unique,
> > but
> > > every single one loses time from their important learning years.
Many
> of
> > > them face the added pressure of being surrounded by new languages
and
> >
cultures." The linked page goes on to detail some of Wikimedia's
vision
> and
> > how Wikimedia projects aid refugee populations. Following that, we
have
an
> entire page on climate change and some of its effects, similarly
written
in
> a style that is not befitting the movement: "In 2015, [Wikimedian
Andreas
> > Weith] photographed starving polar bears in the Arctic. As the ice
> > declines, so does their ability to find food. “It’s heartbreaking,”
he
> > says." After all that, we finally
have some pages on interesting
> statistics
> > about Wikimedia, mixed in with some general odd facts about the
world,
> > > followed by a call to donate. There are also letters from the ED and
> > > founder linked.
> > >
> > > So, this could be a mix of coincidence and bad stylistic choices,
and
not
> > politically motivated at all, but it is getting increasingly hard to
> assume
> > good faith on this, especially with the blog post a month ago
> specifically
> > calling for a change in refugee policy.
> >
> > Using Wikimedia projects to push politics is not okay. If the WMF
does
> not
> > accept this, I suspect many projects will simply block
CentralNotices,
> > > avoid associating with WMF statements, and quite possibly
fork/leave.
> >
> > This is a serious problem.
> >
> > -- Yair Rand
> >
> > [1]
https://annual.wikimedia.org/2016/?pk_campaign=
> > WikiBanners&pk_kwd=AR2016_dsk_short
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