Agree wholeheartedly. Don't need details but a summary list of chapters and
the record of who voted would be very welcome.
I was dismayed that this information was private. It seems like
transparency of basic information like this should be the goal here. I
don't think detailed information is necessary.
Like WM UK, WM NYC was transparent about the process and outcome of its
voting. It would be a real drag to have to look at each chapter's recent
events to see if this information is recorded locally.
Why not have it publicly viewable, collected in one place? I don't see a
downside here.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog*
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>
Secretary, Wikimedia NYC
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC>
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:29 PM, Pharos <pharosofalexandria(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
In fact, for those who have access to it, there is a
list of statements at
the bottom of that page, listing statements from each chapthorg on their
method and time of voting:
https://chapters.wikimedia.ch/Appointment_process/2016/Voting#Statements
For example, our entry says:
"NYC: Decided by open public meeting on April 13, 2016."
I think it might be best to make that whole section publicly viewable.
Thanks,
Pharos
On Tue, May 3, 2016 at 12:24 PM, Andrew Gray <andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk>
wrote:
Yes, for clarity, this is what I meant - a public
list of who has
voted so far (or who hasn't - it's much the same thing, as the overall
electorate is known), but not a list of the votes.
I'm quite happy with confidential voting - either fully secret or, as
Itzik says, just confidential until the end of the vote.
But knowing *who* has voted would be quite useful. Ultimately, the
chapters represent large chunks of the community, and if the chapter
isn't doing its job then it's good their members know about it in
order to chase them. Discovering afterwards that your chapter hasn't
voted is interesting, but not very useful at making sure votes get
cast while there's still time - and ultimately, I think that last part
is what we all want to achieve :-)
A.
On 3 May 2016 at 16:21, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt(a)gmail.com> wrote:
It seems like people are talking about two
separate things at the same
time:
>
> - Some people are taking about publishing *the votes* (either before,
or
after the
election has finished)
- Some people are talking about publishing *the list of who has voted*
right now.
It is this second thing that I understood to be the request being made,
and
it is also completely consistent with the way the
community-election
works
> (where the voter, but not their vote, is published immediately). I also
> wouldn't think that publishing the names of the Chapters that have
voted
(and
therefore identifying which ones have not yet) is still consistent
with the preference that the *vote itself* remain private.
So, in order for the community (and those of us who are members of
Chapters
in particular) to encourage the chapters have not
yet voted to do so,
would
it be possible to please publish a table on Meta
of the list of
voting-eligible organisations, and a "tick" next to their name if they
have
indeed already submitted their vote. [NOT who
they voted for]
Thanks,
-Liam
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