On 3 Mar 2016, at 3:45 AM, Pete Forsyth peteforsyth@gmail.com wrote:
The message below went without response on the list, but there was a significant off-list response.
Jimmy Wales wrote to James Heilman, and CC'd me. His message professed to praise this one, but missed its main points:
- There was no mention of professional mediation or facilitation to work
through disagreements
- Jimmy Wales had *even worse* things to say about James Heilman than he
has said in public.
I won't repeat those words on a public list, but I am unimpressed with the tactic of moving personal attacks off list. Jimmy's message was sent 48 hours ago, and I immediately told him the things I've said here, but there has been no response.
We should not use off-list messages to convey thoughts that would be completely unacceptable if said in public. I don't want to be involved in stuff like that -- and I'd much rather it didn't happen to begin with.
-Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]]
If you didn’t solicit the email then I think you should make it public, and redact anything that might be dangerous to someone’s personal privacy.
This is surprising and frankly very upsetting to hear. I have been critical of the WMF, and I have openly criticized actions that Jimmy has taken in public. But I never thought that I’d read that he’d send off-list messages disparaging James.
It’s even worse than that actually - I’m assuming he stated things that he believes James did as a Board member, but said it to a non-Board member. I seem to recall a certain WMF Board member saying that he felt he couldn’t support James because he felt that he might not keep his issue confidential.
Chris