I know David in real life so maybe I am not as objective as I could be but I know how hard he works and how diligent he is about this admin work he does. He is doing the devil's work in my opinion. I couldn't do what he does so I'm thankful for his efforts. Thank you David.
When David has flagged things I've worked on -- or that I disagree on his take on something others have worked on and he's flagged -- he's been very willing to have a conversation about it -- and has changed his stance more than once.
That said, it's down to the quality of the first draft. In this instance, the draft, in my opinion, did a disservice to the subject. Although there were good citations, the content of the page was not strong enough or well developed enough to reflect what the entity actually does. And didn't establish notability or have the basic details needed to be up on Wikipedia. It was a draft and belonged in a Draft, Sandbox, or user space.
So this is another case of an enthusiastic editor putting something up on the main space without doing the building blocks work that was needed. I love the enthusiasm displayed here but helping new folks who want to create entries for their friends and relatives or want to start right off with a new entry -- vs. working on building skills by adding citations and improving the gajillions of articles that need TLC -- well it begins to wear even this inclusionist down. I don't think I had the guts or confidence to start a new stub until I had been editing regularly for 6 months, but obviously other people have a different take on this.
Also: Mitar, these long breathy quite frankly TL;DR posts don't really help your cause. I think your concerns have been expressed and people have been great about responding. But at a certain point no one has time to dig through all your words and it becomes a bit presumptive that people have time to give these legitimate concerns the attention they deserve. Just thought I'd mention that. Totally ironic of me to say because I am a long-winded person myself. So take that for what you will.... :-)
Again, only my opinion, all of the above. But wanted to give a shout out to David and thank him publicly.
- Erika
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle*
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 7:01 PM, David Goodman dggenwp@gmail.com wrote:
I was the person who tagged the article we are discussing for deletion as no indication of importance. I am quite aware I have a certain frequency of error, probably about 2-5%, as does essentially everyone screening articles. Therefore there is an firmly established practice , that no administrator delete an article of such ground without a check from someone else, so it could not be deleted unless another administrator agreed. This reduces the error rate to about 0.05 to 0.25%,and I cannot imagine how and crowd-sourced process could do better.