I am happy to read Pine's emails. A mailing list is useful to bring attention to specific issues as one can only watch a certain percentage of wikipedia / meta / etc.
J
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:10 AM, Sam Klein sjklein@hcs.harvard.edu wrote:
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Wiki pages are certainly better for long-term organization of discussions. They are harder for a few voices to dominate; they can be refactored and summarized, and skimmed to find discussions among new voices. Our translation tools work directly on meta.
A simple mail-to-wiki script could be nice, adding a link from wiki pages to public email/forum threads. But one doesn't exist now.
Pine, you are one of the most active posters to this list, by count and volume; clearly you like mail. Not everyone does; some are put off by the power law distribution of posters here. Nat's suggestion is reasonable; why not try it and see how it works. Some discussions about board composition will inevitably occur here; if you see ones that you think are relevant, you can help ensure they are summarized on that page.
Sam
On Wed, Jul 27, 2016 at 11:45 AM, Dan Garry dgarry@wikimedia.org wrote:
Hey Pine,
On 27 July 2016 at 08:25, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I'm not sure that I agree with you. The Board and Lila ignored some inquiries that I made on Meta. Discussions on this mailing list seem to attract at least as much good-faith participation as discussions on
Meta. I
would suggest that inquiries could be made in either venue, and the
Board
can simply acknowledge and collect them for action during the
governance
review.
If I'm understanding, you're saying that you've previously left questions on Meta which ended up going unanswered, and therefore you'd prefer to
ask
questions on this mailing list to increase your chances of a response.
Increasing the number of open channels of communication also increases
the
burden of monitoring those channels to ensure that nothing goes missing. Therefore, trying to engage in two places will likely increase the chance of something going missing, rather than decreasing. This is likely why Nataliia has asked that feedback be given in a single location, so that
she
can be sure that she can see any feedback or questions that are given. I would encourage you to try engaging on Meta, as Nataliia suggests, rather than here, to reduce the chances that something goes missing or ignored.
Thanks, Dan
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