Hi Nataliia,
I'm not sure that I agree with you. The Board and Lila ignored some inquiries that I made on Meta. Discussions on this mailing list seem to attract at least as much good-faith participation as discussions on Meta. I would suggest that inquiries could be made in either venue, and the Board can simply acknowledge and collect them for action during the governance review.
There are times when highly threaded discussions on wiki are easier to follow than large quantities of entangled mailing list posts, but that is an exception, and in any case I follow the philosophy of trying to meet people where they are whenever reasonably feasible.
Thanks,
Pine
On Jul 26, 2016 02:18, "Nataliia Tymkiv" ntymkiv@wikimedia.org wrote:
Dear all,
As Christophe mentioned, BGC has discussed Board composition issue and decided that the best way is to wait for the results of the governance review. It was mentioned in the minutes, by the way [1]
If you have relevant arguments and think that it would make sense for other people to be aware of these arguments, please, *discuss them on Meta*. Mailing lists are not very useful for things like that. There is a talk page for this [2]
[1]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_Governance_Commit... [2]
https://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Wikimedia_Foundation_Board...
Best regards, antanana / Nataliia Tymkiv
On Tue, Jul 26, 2016 at 11:22 AM, WereSpielChequers < werespielchequers@gmail.com> wrote:
Pine has a point. We all know that the founder seat will go eventually. Whether it goes on the death or incapacity of the founder or earlier is a valid question for the board and the community. I'm not convinced that an elections committee should be deciding which posts to elect, and even if such governance issues do fall into its remit they should probably focus
on
how to elect first. So I'd say this should be a board decision.
As for the arguments to retain a founder seat for the next few decades, I suggest that those who favour such a position try to couch their
arguments
in terms of institutional knowledge, the value of an element of
continuity
and the positives for the community to still retain such a link with our founder. Then hope that the incidents of a few months ago fade in memory and are not repeated. There is a case to be made for a founder seat, but
as
with any argument in this community there are ways to argue respectfully and effectively, and there are arguments that undermine your cause and weaken your reputation.
WereSpielChequers
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Hi BGC,
I asked a question earlier in this thread which seems to have been overlooked. Is the BGC (or the Board as a whole) considering whether
the
Founder's seat will become an elected seat in the forseeable future?
Pine
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