That's excellent news Olatunde Isaac! Well done, and thanks for letting us
know.
Congratulations Olatunde and others who were involved with the effort!
On Mon, Jan 18, 2016 at 2:33 AM, olatunde isaac <reachout2isaac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Dear all,
On behalf of WUGN, this is to congratulate all the Wikimedia communities
for the success of the celebration of Wikipedia at 15.
We held an event at Fountain University in Osogbo, Osun State, Nigeria as
a way of commemorating the 15th years anniversary in the country. It was
also a moment to reflect on the significance of Wikipedia, as the largest
encyclopedia in the world and her plans for the future.
No doubt, the event was a great success. We were hosted by the Vice
Chancellor of the Institution with over 100 students in Attendance. One of
the major highlights is the cutting of cake to celebrate the event.
The event was followed with 3days workshop tagged: Wikipedia Workshop for
student of Fountain University, to be concluded on the 28th January, 2016.
Best,
Olatunde Isaac,
Secretary, WUGN
Sent from my BlackBerry wireless device from MTN
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You called? :)
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Chris Keating <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com
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Ok, spot the idiot who can't send an offlist
email offlist.
On 13 Jan 2016 09:38, "Chris Keating" <chriskeatingwiki(a)gmail.com>
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> > That's what the Googleplex
wants you to think!
> > On 13 Jan 2016 00:56, "Asaf Bartov" <abartov(a)wikimedia.org>
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> > > (perhaps it would be
nice to stop wasting everyone's time with
this.)
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> > A.
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> > On Tue, Jan 12, 2016 at 4:32 PM, Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > I've written a guess on what Damon is hinting at. I will reveal
this
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Il 17/01/2016 00:49, Risker ha scritto:
Hmm. The majority of those crawlers are from
search engines - the very
search engines that keep us in the top 10 of their results (and often in
the top 3), thus leading to the usage and donations that we need to
survive. If they have to pay, then they might prefer to change their
algorithm, or reduce the frequency of scraping (thus also failing to
catch
updates to articles including removal of
vandalism in the lead
paragraphs,
> which is historically one of the key reasons for frequently crawling the
> same articles). Those crawlers are what attracts people to our sites,
to
read, to make
donations, to possibly edit. Of course there are lesser
crawlers, but they're not really big players.
As usual you nailed it!
That's why I wrote "negotiation" implying any
extra cost should be fairly modulated but also it shouldn't force over
the tops to leave our services.
I'm at a loss to understand why the Wikimedia Foundation should take on
the
costs and indemnities associated with hiring
staff to create a for-pay
API
> that would have to meet the expectations of a customer (or more than one
> customer) that hasn't even agreed to pay for access. If they want a
> specialized API (and we've been given no evidence that they do), let
THEM
hire the
staff, pay them, write the code in an appropriately open-source
way, and donate it to the WMF with the understanding that it could be
modified as required, and that it will be accessible to everyone.
+1 is not enough
let's +1e12
It is good that the WMF has studied the usage patterns. Could a link be
given to the report, please? It's public, correct? This is exactly the
point of transparency. If only the WMF has the information, then it
gives
an excuse for the community's comments to be
ignored "because they don't
know the facts". So let's lay out all the facts on the table, please.
From Lila's ongoing choices I'm pretty sure they will.
Il 17/01/2016 03:11, Denny Vrandecic ha scritto:
To give a bit more thoughts: I am not terribly
worried about current
crawlers. But currently, and more in the future, I expect us to provide
more complex and this expensive APIs: a SPARQL endpoint, parsing APIs,
etc.
These will be simply expensive to operate. Not
for infrequent users -
say,
> to the benefit of us 70,000 editors - but for use cases that involve
tens
or millions of
requests per day. These have the potential of burning a
lot
of funds to basically support the operations of
commercial companies
whose
mission might or might not be aligned with our.
Then a good synthesis would be "let's Google(*) fund scholarships/summer
of codes/whatever to build new functionalities then make Google
reimburse (**) our facilities' usage/increase our userbase(***)".
Notes:
(*) by "Google" I mean any big player
(**) by "reimburse" I mean give us a fairly and proportionally
determined amount of money based upon *actual* exploitation of our
hardware/networking resources. This "reimburse" could also be colo space
or whatever we'd need.
(***) as several people already pointed out we're in a symbiotic
relationship with Google (and others): they need our knowledge, we need
their traffic. As long as our sectors are distinct all is right with the
symbiosis.
IMHO there's room to increase our advantages without breaking the
symbiosis but, above all, without missing our mission.
Vito
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