To me, "Hello" and "Thank you" are quite under-used words on this list (in the movement generally but particularly here) so I would prefer we didn't rule these emails out.
After all, if we remove pile-on positive threads that contain little information then pile-on negative threads with equally little information will probably still remain.
Chris
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 5:07 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, The drawback is that not everyone has the inclination to read everything on Meta as well. At some stage it is just too much. By insisting on silence, the silence may become overwhelming and it increases the notion that this list is only for polical tigers. Thanks, GerardM
On 13 January 2016 at 18:00, Asaf Bartov abartov@wikimedia.org wrote:
+1 from me too, and to not be spammy myself, I'll add:
one very appropriate way to do welcomes and thanks is *on-wiki*. Notes welcoming people (or announcing new boards etc.) should, as a matter of habit, include a wiki URL (the user's page, or the affiliate's page,
etc.),
where people would be invited to leave thank/welcome notes. People interested in others' messages could watchlist the page, or read the accumulated messages all at once, and the list would be quieter.
A.
On Wed, Jan 13, 2016 at 4:06 AM, MF-Warburg mfwarburg@googlemail.com wrote:
As a mostly silent reader of this list, I'd like to spammingly +1 this message. There's hardly anything more superfluous than these "Welcome
from
Wikimedia Schleswig-Holstein as well!!!!" mails. Am 13.01.2016 12:12 schrieb "Fæ" faewik@gmail.com:
TL;DR Can anyone suggest of a better way of publicly logging thanks, hellos & goodbyes for our public email lists?
BACKGROUND Wikimedia lists are probably unique in the number of emails over a year which 'thankspam'. For example there is a pattern set that an awful lot of chapter representatives send public welcomes and
goodbyes
without conveying any new information. Sometimes when my email notifier shows about ten of these on the same day, I've made the effort to block that thread, I don't know of a way of specifically muting the notifications for these types of emails on my mobile
phone.
Though everyone could chose to send these privately rather than
making
a public statement, I understand the motivation for "us too"s to be noticed by others who are not the intended 'thanked'. On email lists something like ensuring thank email subject lines have a formulaic part of the title would help, so that readers can choose to mute
them;
equivalent to marking "minor" or "bot" edits on our projects so they don't get flagged in recent changes.
This thought stirred by Ad's email, but not against the sentiment he was aiming for.
PS For those that recall my meta thanks reports, I hope to get this online again soon once a related phabricator task is resolved.
Fae
On 13 January 2016 at 09:21, Ad Huikeshoven ad@wikimedia.nl wrote: ...
I failed to welcome incoming directors to the board of the
Wikimedia
Foundation and I failed to thank outgoing directors of the same
board
for
the time and effort they have spent.
- that you are sorry about the harm/damage/waste/confusion your
mistake
caused (being specific would demonstrate understanding);
I'm sorry for this unpolite and rude behavior.
...
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