Have been enjoying discussions on the subject matter. I wish we can understand that we are laying a precedent that would be used to judge you and I tomorrow. Yes, the board could be right by the decision taking against James . More so , the communities could be right by their reactions against the decision.
In light of these two positions, we need to look at the substances surrounding the issue at hand, thus:
1. What is James's offence 2. Is the offense enough for a sack 3. Is the board answerable to the communities in term of their decisions and activities. 4. How current is the bylaw being used by the board 5 . Who makes the law. The more the above mentioned questions remain unanswered, the more the argument. Mind you, a very tiny smoke if not quenched will definitely lead to a wildfire. Lastly, If we could answer these golden questions, perhaps we could be on the way to resolve the matter at hand.
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The sky isnt falling https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henny_Penny yes it wasnt optimally handled and yes it caught the community by surprise but lets be careful here. We cant sit back and enjoy the holiday season while expecting everyone else to be dropping everything and running into to the office to write a full explanation while threaten to bring the the projects(their livelyhoods) crashing down around their ears.
Lets just take a collective breath and wait until people start returning next week to sort out the mess created, let them provide better information and move forward better informed
On 2 January 2016 at 17:44, Yaroslav M. Blanter putevod@mccme.ru wrote:
On 2016-01-02 09:37, Peter Southwood wrote:
Just as you say. No threat to WMF if they don’t care about retaining the editing community. If all else fails thy could just sell advertising Cheers, Peter
This is an interesting theoretical discussion, and I criticized WMF in the past on a number of occasions, but I feel necessary to emphasize that there is not a slightest indication at this time that they do not care about retaining the community. At most, we have indications that they did not handle some issues in sub-optimal way. The probability that Wikipedia and sister projects will collapse in say ten years because some novel technical means become available and we do not manage to respond properly is in my opinion a billion times higher than that we will collapse because BoT or WMF staff function sub-optimally in their daily communications with the community. Let us discuss real things and not what happens if Martians come to enslave us.
Cheers Yaroslav
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