Keegan and Oliver (again),
I've communicated a bit with Keegan off list, and I appreciate the feedback
from both of you. I intended to say something conciliatory, I didn't put
much thought into how I put it, and I achieved the opposite effect. I'm
sorry. I should have known better.
For whatever it's worth, I don't presume to speak for anybody, and I don't
have any illusion that my personal communication gives me special insights
unavailable to others. I can see how my message would give that impression
though.
What I DO believe is that currently, we have stronger lines of
communication among a lot of people than we're used to, and I think that
can be a positive force in both finding common cause and hearing individual
voices. Suggesting that anything would compensate for somebody not actively
representing themselves, though, was a mistake. The two points don't really
connect, and I shouldn't have tried.
Anyhow -- this thread was never meant to be about me, so I'll leave it at
that. (The subject line I chose was bad as well -- it puts way too much
emphasis on "my" role.) If either of you, or anybody else who was offended
by my words, feels that I'm still missing something, please let me know
offlist.
-Pete
[[User:Peteforsyth]]
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 7:33 PM, Oliver Keyes <ironholds(a)gmail.com> wrote:
+1 to Keegan. I am glad you have spoken to staffers,
Pete. I promise I
can identify at least 300 other people that fall into that category
too.
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 9:40 PM, Keegan Peterzell
<kpeterzell(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2016 at 8:04 PM, Pete Forsyth
<peteforsyth(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
Still, my list is very much influenced by what I
have heard from staff, board, etc. over many months -- so it's not like
your seat is getting cold without you. :)
My seat without me in it would be the very definition of it getting cold
without me in it, not to be glib. Your presumptions are starting to be
offensive.
I am a person. I am a Wikimedian on my own,[0] apart from my role in my
signature line.
I think what we need to *first* do is stop pigeonholing individuals, and
then presuming to know their opinions based on said hole placement, which
was the point of my initial email: do not presume to know what those who
are not speaking right now are thinking, and wait to hear from them. But
I
guess you're missing the point.
I know you're going to say that's not what you're intending to do, but
it's
exactly what you're saying.
Slow down. There are plenty of leaders with thoughts in this movement,
give
everyone space.
0.
https://tools.wmflabs.org/xtools-ec/?user=Keegan&project=en.wikipedia.o…
--
Keegan Peterzell
Community Liaison, Product
Wikimedia Foundation
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