Volunteer and unpaid are not the same thing. There is overlap, but not congruency. Cheers, p
-----Original Message----- From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Thyge Sent: Monday, 08 February 2016 12:17 AM To: Wikimedia Mailing List Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] "9 annoying nonprofit trends that need to die"
2016-02-07 19:10 GMT+01:00 Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com:
A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is 100% written by volunteers. That's simply false.
I find that point of view entirely wrong. The WMF does not pay anybody to edit, so editors are volunteers. I might follow the same line of reasoning and say, that Wikipedia is not neutral, because people are allowed to write about their own country/city etc.
Contributors make a living from other sources. Anybody could have some affiliation other than getting paid and total neutrality is hard to come by.
Thyge
2016-02-07 19:10 GMT+01:00 Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com:
A marketing slogan that I'd like WMF to banish is that Wikipedia is 100% written by volunteers. That's simply false. Wikipedia is written by individuals with a mix of motives, and for some people those motives include financial compensation.
Diverging a little into the topic of paid contributions: generally I feel that *disclosed* paid editing is ok so long as it's done in a manner that's compliant with our policies. For example, a museum staffer who publicly discloses their affiliation and writes on Wikipedia about a fossil that the museum has in its collection may be a net positive writer for the encyclopedia. On the other hand, a someone who's a POV-pusher for a political interest, whether paid or unpaid, may be a net negative for the encyclopedia.
In any case, Wikipedia is only partially written by volunteers, and public communications from WMF should be consistent with this reality.
Pine
On Sun, Feb 7, 2016 at 1:58 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
lol .... This is why “Nonprofit: The Musical” will have, as one of its characters, a consultant robot, whose only job is to repeat exactly what an internal staff or board member says; the difference is that the robot actually gets listened to.
On Sat, Feb 6, 2016 at 8:59 PM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I think that a number of us may appreciate this article, specifically people who are involved with Wikimedia affiliates, grant committees,
and
WMF Community Engagement including CR and PC&L.
http://nonprofitwithballs.com/2015/06/9-annoying-nonprofit-trends-that -need-to-die/
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