Hoi,
That is indeed a problem. So far it has been lists, often well formatted
lists that do not have a workflow, are not updated regularly. I have added
these issues as a wishlist item to work on. [1]
You have to appreciate that when a list of problematic issues is listed
with over 100 items, it is no longer easy or obvious that you want to add
and follow 100 talk pages.This is one of the big differences between
Wikipedia think and Wikidata think. I care about a lot of data, data that
is linked. Analogous to the "Kevin Bacon steps of separation" I want all
items easily and obviously connected. <grin> That is another quality goal
for Wikidata </grin>.
Given the state of Wikipedia, most articles have an article, easy and
obvious tasks like fact checking and adding sources is exactly what we are
looking for for maintaining our community. Add relevance to the cocktail,
we know that these facts are likely to have issues, and you appreciate why
this may help us with our quality and with our community issues.
Thanks,
GerardM
[1]
On 21 November 2015 at 07:11, Peter Southwood <peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
wrote:
How are you notifying the Wikipedias/Wikipedians? Do
you leave a message
on the talk page of the relevant article?
Cheers,
Peter
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Hoi,
So far such lists have been produced for bigger Wikipedias but essentially
it is potentially an issue for any and all Wikis that have data that may
exist on Wikidata or linked through Wikidata on external sources.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 20 November 2015 at 12:33, Peter Southwood <
peter.southwood(a)telkomsa.net>
wrote:
Gerard,
Who were you expecting would respond from the Wikipedias?
Cheers,
Peter
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Sent: Friday, 20 November 2015 9:18 AM
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Quality issues
Hoi,
At Wikidata we often find issues with data imported from a Wikipedia.
Lists have been produced with these issues on the Wikipedia involved
and arguably they do present issues with the quality of Wikipedia or
Wikidata for that matter. So far hardly anything resulted from such
outreach.
When Wikipedia is a black box, not communicating about with the
outside world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this
moment there are already those at Wikidata that argue not to bother
about Wikipedia quality because in their view, Wikipedians do not care
about its
own quality.
Arguably known issues with quality are the easiest to solve.
There are many ways to approach this subject. It is indeed a quality
issue both for Wikidata and Wikipedia. It can be seen as a research
issue; how to deal with quality and how do such mechanisms function if
at all.
I blogged about it..
Thanks,
GerardM
http://ultimategerardm.blogspot.nl/2015/11/what-kind-of-box-is-wikiped
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