Offtopic: Gerard, during the last half an hour or so, I am just getting emails from you inside of this thread (including wiki-research list). I thought my phone has a bug. It's useful to write a larger email with addressing all the issues. Besides other things, with this frequency, you'll spend your monthly email quota for this list the day after tomorrow.
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 11:35 PM, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, <grin> quality is different things </grin> I do care about quality but I do not necessarily agree with you how to best achieve it. Arguably bots are better and getting data into Wikidata than people. This means that the error rate of bots is typically better than what people do. It is all in the percentages.
I have always said that the best way to improve quality is by comparing sources. When Wikidata has no data, it is arguably better to import data from any source. When the quality is 90% correct, there is already 100% more data. When 100% is compared with another source and 85% is the same, you only have to check 15% and decide what is right. When you compare with two distinct sources, the percentage that differs changes again.. :) In this way it makes sense to check errors
It does not help when you state that either party has people that care or do not care about quality. By providing a high likelihood that something is problematic, you will learn who actually makes a difference. It however started with having data to compare in the first place Thanks, GerardM
On 20 November 2015 at 14:50, Petr Kadlec petr.kadlec@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, Nov 20, 2015 at 8:18 AM, Gerard Meijssen < gerard.meijssen@gmail.com> wrote:
When Wikipedia is a black box, not communicating about with the outside world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this moment there
are
already those at Wikidata that argue not to bother about Wikipedia
quality
because in their view, Wikipedians do not care about its own quality.
Right. When some users blindly dump random data to Wikidata, not communicating about with the outside world, at some stage the situation becomes toxic. At this moment there are already those at Wikipedia that argue not to bother about Wikidata quality because in their view, Wikidatans do not care about its own quality.
For instance, take a look at https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GerardM https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/User_talk:GerardM/Archive_1
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