Hoi, Your sarcasm is nothing but discrimination. You throw everybody who beliefs on one pile. Just as if a religion, any religion is needed for people to get off the rails. There are plenty of examples of that.
As to who is an actual Muslim and who understands the sunna and its interpretation particularly in the light of Daesh, they are two distinct questions. Any typical Muslim will leave the finer points to the scholars, any typical Muslim will disagree with Daesh on many major points. Thanks, GerardM
On 15 November 2015 at 23:09, Isaac David isacdaavid@isacdaavid.info wrote:
<sarcasm> Yes, because there are many nice self-avowed Jewish, Muslims, Christians, etc. around the world. Therefore when some bad people do something horrible in the name of their cultural and ideological identity it actually has nothing to do with the ideas themselves, it's always got to be some other historical, social or psychological factor, otherwise we would be linking bad guys with good guys. </sarcasm>
But who are you to decide who is an actual Muslim and who isn't?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman
Le dim. 15 nov. 2015 à 15:47, John Mark Vandenberg jayvdb@gmail.com a écrit :
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 11:17 PM, Gnangarra gnangarra@gmail.com wrote:
Not sure we should be making such a link as the events in Paris are not about Islam just as the actions of the women in Kentucky was not a reflection of Christianity. Paris is not the only place its unfortunately its not even the latest place to fall victim to ISIS.
Wikimedia is a world wide community and the focus on Paris ignores all our other communities who have over the last week, months. year or longer have been affected by acts of terrorism, I think we should exercise care when we adopt activities that elevate events or imply some guilt of association immortalizing that as fact in a place like wikipedia
Very much agree broadly with Gnangarra, especially about links with Islam. The most positive and wiki way to respond is to ensure we're being neutral, and that the reality of all attacks around the world are being adequately and accurately recorded in a balanced manner from a worldwide perspective.
However the attack on Paris is widely viewed as an escalation, not because a citizen of one country is more valued than another, because some places are more treasured by larger number of people of the world, and also we're more shocked as we expect they are better protected, and that creates an elevation of its own.
I appreciate the Signpost for very tastefully responding, in a measured way.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-11-11/Galler...
-- John Vandenberg
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