Le 18/03/2015 16:23, David Gerard a écrit :
http://schools-wikipedia.org does most of the job. And
teachers LOVE
it. We should give this project more love and assistance, it's
basically the refutation of all attempts to, er, filter the base product.
Teachers love it, what about children?
Le 18/03/2015 16:51, Marc A. Pelletier a écrit :
On 15-03-18 11:23 AM, David Gerard wrote:
We should give this project more love and
assistance, it's
basically the refutation of all attempts to, er, filter the base
product.
I agree. Whenever a group of people decide to curate some subset of our
projects with an eye towards their needs, then I count it as a win (even
in the cases where I would object to the curation choices myself).
The fact is it is "just" a set of curated (and choosen) Wikipedia
articles. What if they are still mostly too complicated ?
Le 18/03/2015 17:33, David Gerard a écrit :
On 18 March 2015 at 15:51, Marc A. Pelletier
<marc(a)uberbox.org> wrote:
What irks me is the idea of giving imprimatur to
something "we" curate,
or to do any sort of curation "ourselves" (that is, the movement or the
Foundation). "All the knowledge" means "All", not "some subset
thereof".
In the case of Schools Wikipedia, it's worked quite well - the
editorial review heavy lifting was substantially done by en:wp
volunteers. They specifically approached it as "what would we expect
in an English school situation?" though it was intended for use
outside the UK (they just used the English National Curriculum as
their guide).
Should children be only allowed to be interested to their school
curriculum? There is so much subjects to be interested in and to learn
about.
Le 18/03/2015 17:38, David Gerard a écrit :
On 18 March 2015 at 16:07, Richard Symonds
<richard.symonds(a)wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
Indeed.
http://schools-wikipedia.org is already
used around the world -
it's a great example of what can be done if Wikimedians work with (even
passively with) other orgs.
Everyone likes it, not many are coming forward to lead
the ongoing
update cycle since User:Bozmo left SOS Children (the charity who put
it together). (And I'm not volunteering.) Not sure what to do about
that.
Well I suggest to do it on a full new open wiki, to use the Simple
English Wikipedia content when it fits, to promote the translation of
already made good work on other languages equivalent of such a wiki, and
to allow fully new articles to be written and bettered.
Yet even the Simple English Wikipedia article are not always the best
content to have. You may compare:
https://simple.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States
https://en.vikidia.org/wiki/History_of_the_USA , written in the last few
month by a eleven years old "vikidian" (however a quite experienced user)
and... I can't find it on
schools-wikipedia.org, there is just
http://schools-wikipedia.org/wp/u/United_States.htm
I wonder how would someone curate the 168,391 bytes
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_United_States to make it
fit to school children.
And here is how we can "curate", that's to say rewrite a few parts and
add some images, an article from Simple English Wikipedia :
https://en.vikidia.org/w/index.php?title=Roman_house&diff=76306&old…
--
Mathias Damour
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Astirmays
https://fr.vikidia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Astirmays