Very, very interesting to get a perspective from the biggest, svwp being a small project.
You use the word "full member of the community" which I like. I would say we 45 at svwp could be seen a a fraternity, we know each other rather well. It will not be possible in the same way if you are 1144, but probably for the 215 you mention
The fraternity thinking has now for us also been extended into that no block for more then a few hours (for cooling off) is allowed for sysops to set on senior editors. Full members of community will only be blocked longer then a day after a discussion by its peers . So no admin harassment allowed when you have come into this level of seniority. (and what the use of blocking these, they come back anyway, under the same or another nick)
Anders
WereSpielChequers skrev den 2015-03-05 13:59:
On the English language Wikipedia we definitely have a phenomenon that editors with high edit counts will stay until a major event drives them away.
But the the threshold may not be 38,000 edits, we have 1,444 editor accounts that have achieved that, and that may no longer be enough to commit you to the site.
The 14 editors with 500,000 or more edits are all currently active, some are still among the most active editors on the site. Though the active definition on [[:en:WP:EDITS]] is merely one or more edits in the last 30 days.
Of the 215 most active editors, 32 are inactive for various reasons and 7 have anonymised themselves on the list of most active editors (though they may be active). So 80-85% of our most active editors are still around. Possibly more when you allow for the fact that at least one of those 32 has closed that account and now edits from another one.
Sadly our admins have not been so likely to stay with us, only 579 are still active as admins, though of the 1500 or so former admins quite a few still edit.
Of course the length of tenure for both groups is likely to be unusual. The vast majority of en wiki admins were appointed more than 7 years ago and it takes time to accumulate a really high edit count. Though we have fewer editors with over 100,000 edits than we have active admins, at current rates that will change in 2016, in recent months we are seeing more editors do their 100,000th edit than become admins. I suspect one of our problems is that we have fewer ways for newish editors to feel they have become an established member of the community. To some extent GLAM, the chapters and the education program do this, and of course the good and Featured article processes. But we shouldn't be surprised that fewer people are staying on after their 100th or 1000th edit, as that is the stage in their wiki career where they are likely to think that they will never become a full member of the community.
Regards
Jonathan/WereSpielChequers
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Message: 2 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 17:44:30 +0100 From: Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia Message-ID: 54F7366E.6090504@anderswennersten.se Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each made more then 38000 edits. Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has left (in 2009) making 97,7 still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only about 6 out of 10 is still active.
Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you are fully addicted to Wikipedia ("until death do us part")?
Anders
Message: 3 Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2015 18:05:42 +0100 From: Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com To: Wikimedia Mailing List wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia Message-ID: CAO53wxX_cbDv7XEMQkV=nWNhr9nk+Y7-f=FJ-ovZy2W-k7qDOw@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hoi, I hope not.. If it were I am a basket case. Hmmm not Wikipedia ... does Wikidata count ? What number of edits would be sufficient ?? Thanks, GerardM
On 4 March 2015 at 17:44, Anders Wennersten mail@anderswennersten.se wrote:
On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each made more then 38000 edits. Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has left (in 2009) making 97,7 still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only about 6 out of 10 is still active.
Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you are fully addicted to Wikipedia ("until death do us part")?
Anders
Message: 5 Date: Wed, 04 Mar 2015 18:19:24 +0100 From: Ricordisamoa ricordisamoa@openmailbox.org To: wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Ciritical level for addiction to Wikipedia Message-ID: 54F73E9C.2000100@openmailbox.org Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Il 04/03/2015 17:44, Anders Wennersten ha scritto:
On svwp there has over the years been 45 individuals who have each made more then 38000 edits. Of these 45, 44 are still active, only one has left (in 2009) making 97,7 still around. For the users with less then 38 000 edits, only about 6 out of 10 is still active.
Is this a global valid number, that when you have made 38000 edits you are fully addicted to Wikipedia ("until death do us part")?
Anders
I've just exceeded 38000 global edits https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:CentralAuth/Ricordisamoa. I'm done for!
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