On 21/07/2015 08:00, rupert THURNER wrote:
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 11:46 PM, Lilburne lilburne@tygers-of-wrath.net wrote:
On 20/07/2015 19:38, Andy Mabbett wrote:
On 20 July 2015 at 18:09, Robert Rohde rarohde@gmail.com wrote:
it is also hard for me to get behind the notion of punishing someone for demanding that reusers due the things that Commons actually recommends that they do.
It's not a question of punishment, but of protecting Commons' reputation (from being" brought into disrepute", as it might be termed)
If you start deleting the images from Commons you put all re-users absolutely at risk who have linked to Commons.
Why?
Because you will now have removed the link to the attributions and license that they were relying on. This is why anyone that links like that is a fool. It is one thing to link to a page containing attribution/license on your site. Quite another to link to some other site you have no control over for the attribution/license.
the link is good enough imo, commons does not throw away the record that the foto was there and everything can be reconstructed in case of trouble.
You shouldn't need to reconstruct anything. The attribution should be there. If someone has linked to the attribution on Commons and Commons admins have deleted the page in some snit then the attribution is no longer there. Regardless as to whether linking to attribution is finally considered by a court as OK. The link is no longer to the attribution. Even CC v4 licenses don't say that it is OK to link to a page where the attribution may or may not be, or where the attribution may upon request be reconstructed, or hunted down. If people are relying on the attribution being at the end of the links then you can't effectively 404 the links.