I would agree - it has annoyed me for years that on Dutch Wikipedia, if you use a painting image from Commons in an article, you may attribute the painter (though it's not required) but you may NOT attribute the painting's owner (often a museum and this seems ridiculous to me). I agree we should reopen the discussion about image attributions on all projects.
On Mon, Jul 20, 2015 at 10:07 AM, rupert THURNER rupert.thurner@gmail.com wrote:
hi,
may i propose to fix the attribution problem for the one common use case "do it like wikipedia does". somebody who refers to images from commons like wikipedia does it should be on legal safe grounds.
there is a recent incident of non-wiki-love where user harald bischoff states "comes into situations where pictures for the WMF are created", here:
https://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Benutzer:Haraldbischoff&diff=... "komme ich regelmässig in Situationen in denen auch das eine oder andere Foto für die wikimedia-foundation"
harald bischoff then uploads these pictures with cc-by-sa-3.0 license, and sues users who use such fotos. the complaint here from a blogger who paid 900 euro, who used a foto, with backlink to commons, and attributing in mouseover:
http://diefreiheitsliebe.de/politik/in-eigener-sache-fast-900-euro-verlust-d...
what i would really love to see is that wikipedia is the role model, i.e. wikipedia refers the pictures as they should be referred by any website. the distinction "because wikipedia is owned by wmf we refer differently to commons than anybody else" needs to go away imo. be it only for the educational effect. personally i do not understand why a link to the works is not good enough as attribution. i thought cc-by-sa 4.0 fixes this problem anyway?
to summarize, i propose to legalize the use case "do it as wikipedia does" when attributing images. to make the site look good anyway we should either fix the software, or the license.
best, rupert
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