I hate to fall in repetition of the discussion we had already on the wiki loves monuments mailing list about this but: - the problems we identified are far more general than Wiki Loves Monuments. Even if WLM is fully unaffected, our points stand because that would be because of timing and not because it works so well. - One of the learning lessons in 2013 for the international team (I was part of that team), was that the grant request was finalized way too late. The request dragged on too long for many reasons, and was already started behind schedule. If it were up to me, the 2015 team would already make the request this month anyway. - Most teams indeed seem to either have it in an Annual Plan Grant, or are very late in requesting. Also this is something we learn from each time that it is, in fact, too late. I would definitely not encourage teams to delay requesting if they already know what they have to request (this is different if they are still chasing sponsors etc). Most of the other work for organizing is already due in June-Aug, so it would be smart to be finished with the finances by then. It allows to focus on what matters most during that time.
Just to summarize from the other threat.
Best, Lodewijk
On Sat, Jan 3, 2015 at 8:53 PM, Ilario Valdelli valdelli@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Romaine, probably it's my feeling but a lot of countries apply for a grant for WLM very late (in general during summer).
So it cannot be demotivating for WLM.
I do not understand the impact of the project to assign the first three months of 2015 to a specific topic with the normal period of application for the national teams.
The same international team of 2013 submitted the request in June.
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:PEG/Wiki_Loves_ Monuments_international_team/2013_coordination
Regards
On 03.01.2015 20:01, Romaine Wiki wrote:
Hi Jane,
Read! https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/ 2014-December/007600.html
From February 1-April 30, PEG will only accept
proposals as part of the gender gap campaign, with the exception for urgent requests.
This means regular projects will not be accepted. That is effectively shutting the grantmaking down. Of course we will not let WLM to be shut down. But this grantmaking shutting down is very demotivating and discouraging, for many organisers.
This is also counter productive in solving the gender gap problem.
Romaine
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