A chronic problem for most of the movement is a shortage of human
resources, both volunteer and paid. Hopefully the work of Aaron H. and
company on revision scoring will help us to keep more of our good-faith
newbies. I also think that the bitey-ness of some Wikimedians can be
counterproductive, and I'd like to see broad improvements in civility on
our projects which I hope would correlate with improved contributor
retention.
I agree that it would be good to have more open access sources available,
and I like the concept of open access signalling.
I'm happy to talk about the human resources shortage issue in more depth;
let's fork that subject if there is interest in continuing to discuss it.
Pine
On Dec 1, 2015 12:22 AM, "Andrea Zanni" <zanni.andrea84(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I don't really mind WMF working with closed-access
publishers, if that
works.
What I think is that we don't put the same effort indoing something with
the openaccess world: all the initiatives I know are volunteer-based.
Two pop up in my mind:
the Signalling Open Access project, aimed to put an icon aside every
reference in Wikipedia, to signal if the article is OA or closed. Ask
Daniel Mietchen for updates.
The other one is the possibility of uploading thousands of articles in
wikisource, directly in HTML. Remember, we have Wikipedia Zero: putting
stuff onWikisource means having a free digital library to everyone. In the
recent Wikisource conference in Vienna we talked about that too, and rhere
is an ongoing discussion in the English Wikisource.
Both these two projects could have a huge impact on open access and in
general for our mission, but they rely on the good will and free time of
few individuals, and have done for years now.
Aubrey
Il 01/dic/2015 03:54 "John Mark Vandenberg" <jayvdb(a)gmail.com> ha
scritto:
On Tue, Dec 1, 2015 at 1:32 PM, Milos Rancic
<millosh(a)gmail.com> wrote:
May we actually stop having anything with these
pest?
http://custodians.online/
I dont believe we can stop using closed access journals, as that would
reduce the quality of our projects, but we can use links to them as an
opportunity to educate the public.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_%28idea_lab%29#Solidar…
However WMF should discontinue its relationship with Elsevier and
Taylor & Francis via the 'Wikipedia Library'.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Elsevier_ScienceDirect
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Taylor_%26_Francis
--
John Vandenberg
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