Hello,
Might I suggest that if folks want to continue talking about this, they rename this thread, as it is no longer about Kourosh Karimkhany, and it is just creating background noise for those of us who have no desire to discuss the whole Wikipedia Zero freedom thing yet again?
Cheers, Craig
On 5 April 2015 at 21:07, Gerard Meijssen gerard.meijssen@gmail.com wrote:
Hoi, Research is not what we compete with. Research is not encyclopaedic either. The research I refer to compared a set of subjects and compared those in several sources... Then again why bore you with information you already could know..
Cherry picking an article from Brittanica is wonderful, it "proves" your point, it however fails to convince.
Your God or mine, the fact is that Wikipedia is a most relevant source. Given your complaint about the John Dee article, there is an opportunity for you. You claim to know the subject matter. Thanks, GerardM
On 5 April 2015 at 12:06, Lilburne lilburne@tygers-of-wrath.net wrote:
On 05/04/2015 06:36, Gerard Meijssen wrote:
Hoi, Reliable is not an absolute. Wikipedia is in the final analysis an encyclopaedia. It is not original research.
One can indeed engage in original research by cherry picking the sources.
Studies have indicated that
Wikipedia is as reliable as its competitors.
Nonsense. Reliability has only ever been checked in the case of well established scientific knowledge (where it was found to have 30% more errors), and highly disputed content. It has not been checked over the millions of articles that are neither of the above.
Take the WP article on John Dee and compare it to the Britannica article. The Britannica article is both readable and well rounded. The WP article is a rambling mess that tries to present Dee the Mathematician, Scientist and natural philospher, but
is
thwarted at every turn by those that want John Dee to be foremost the magician and conjuror.
Perhaps in the end Dee the mathematician wins out, but it is a close run thing, and one has to pour over the stilted language and mish mash of thought processes to get there.
Ironically enough many of the sources used to promote Dee the magician
are
instead promoting Dee the mathematician.
I think you have it backward. Given that Wikipedia is best of breed,
people do care about Wikipedia Zero.
God help us if that is the case. Fortunately there are far more informative and reliable sites about then wikipedia. Unfortunately they tend not to be on the
first
page of a search engine's results.
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe
Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines Wikimedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe