Any time I have seen the proposal of a pre-conference in Wikimania, any time I have seen nothing happening.
There are two hackathons per year, one as Wikimania pre-conference and a second one as separate event.
In my opinion proposing a preconference will not solve the problem but will add a second conference to the annual one.
And the result will be a cost increasing for any Wikimania because in my opinion the Wikimedia conference for affiliated will become more similar to the Hackathon.
Personally I have seen a lot of events before Wikimania as pre-conference, the agenda is already full of workshops and activities, there is no sense to add a new one or there is no sense to add a new conference because all these activities will have poor number of attendees keeping low the budget of Wikimania.
Regards
On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:31 AM, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
One additional nice benefit from having the affiliates conference be a pre-Wikimania conference is that those who don't want to or are excluded from the affiliate portions of the event can attend other portions like the education pre-conference or the pre-conference hackathon.
Can we please move this discussion to Meta?
Thanks,
Pine
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 11:38 PM, Ed Saperia edsaperia@gmail.com wrote:
It would, however, significantly increase the work for the Wikimania organisers. They didn't sign up to programme and organise an affiliate
org
conference, so they shouldn't have to if they don't want to.
Guestlists cause all sorts of politics, but are a necessary evil when dealing with limited resources. Choices must be made, and it's up to the hosts to decide who gets to come. A mission statement for the conference might help alleviate some of the bad feeling, but there will inevitably
be
some as long as there are fewer places than people.
Ed Saperia Conference Coordinator Wikimania London
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On 12 Sep 2014, at 01:44, Pine W wiki.pine@gmail.com wrote:
I like the idea of having this event be a pre-conference for Wikimania. That may reduce total travel costs and travel time for the people who usually attend both events. This may also simplify planning for people
and
thorgs.
Pine
On Sep 11, 2014 5:25 PM, "Pete Forsyth" peteforsyth@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 4:59 PM, Richard Symonds < richard.symonds@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
What I'm saying is, let's plan a conference before we argue over the
name.
But, most of the people on this list wouldn't have anything to do with
this
conference -- surely there's a better resource for
conference-planning.
The thing most of us have a stake in is the name of the conference,
and
--
perhaps -- nothing more.
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