On 11/09/14 22:06, Pete Forsyth wrote:
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 1:47 PM, Alice Wiegand me.lyzzy@gmail.com wrote:
Is this really a discussion about the name of a conference or is it more a discussion about inclusion and exclusion with the underlying question if this conference, which once was set up as a meeting for the organizations within the Wikimedia movement, should be open for non-organized Wikimedians as well. Which would probably be a different conference.
I think this discussion is both. But the immediate, acute, and solvable problem (the inaccurate name of the conference) should not be ignored, just because there *might* be a larger, hazier problem that will not be solved today or tomorrow. Some progress is better than no progress.
Personally, I have no problem with the existence of the conference, but I find its name alienating. Not everyone agrees with that assessment, but clearly some others in this thread do.
Pete [[User:Peteforsyth]]
What Pete said.
We could go into issues with the exclusionary nature itself, such as that it would exclude representatives of groups who ran into trouble becoming official - despite such a conference likely being one of the best venues for them to bring up and discuss with relevant others how to actually address or resolve that trouble that excluded them in the first place...
...but that sort of thing is much harder to resolve/address. The name, at least, is simple, and should also make a lot of the other problems less glaring in the process.
-I