On 10 September 2014 11:01, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 10 September 2014 18:59, James Forrester
<jforrester(a)wikimedia.org>
wrote:
Eh. I'm not particularly interested in
building features that only work
in
VE and not wikitext, and particularly not in ones
that would require
changing both the wikitext used to write talk pages for the benefit of VE
users and disrupting wikitext. We can, and we must, do better than that.
(But yes, I imagine the additional ease of VE here would be significant.)
Yeah, special markup in this case is an annoyance. I'm picturing n00bs
using the VE (newbies I throw at the VE *love* it *so much* ... I need
to try them on adding a reference) and going "... ah. There's
discussion on this point."
Indeed, one of the uses of this model of content-centred-discussion
combined with real-time collaborative editing that we're going to add to
VisualEditor eventually, could be letting newbies call out for help
mid-edit and admins/helpers/etc. could swoop in and show them how to add a
reference; at the end of the edit, these discussions could get archived or
just thrown away, depending on what works.
But now I'm just selling products we haven't built yet, which is a bit
unfair. :-)
J.
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James D. Forrester
Product Manager, Editing
Wikimedia Foundation, Inc.
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