As an experienced user, the Commons app is tremendously useful (when it
doesn't crash). But as a Commons curator, I see a steady stream of "test
uploads" and the like -- things that are utterly and completely unrelated
to our educational mission -- that require a great deal of volunteer
resources to process. The vast majority are tagged as mobile uploads.
The Commons app gives the user absolutely no idea what Commons is about, or
what kind of uploads are desirable. I think that is significant. The
UploadWizard on the desktop version of Commons starts off with a cartoon
explaining issues like copyright and personality rights, and then guides
the user through related questions. Although I have not done a formal
analysis, it seems to be overwhelmingly the case that files originating
from Mobile uploads are much more often problematic than those originating
from the Upload Wizard. I don't think that's a coincidence.
It would be really awesome to have the ability for experienced users to use
our devices to upload directly -- and even better if it opens doors to new
contributors *in a way that meaningfully guides their participation*. But
if new contributors are given no guidance, and unknowingly do stuff that
puts a high load on our volunteer curators -- is that cost too high?
I hope that kind of improvement is part of the discussion. Personally, I'd
rather see a revamped app, than that the app just disappears.
Pete
On Mon, Sep 8, 2014 at 6:41 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <jayvdb(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:30 AM, Erik Moeller
<erik(a)wikimedia.org> wrote:
Yann,
The Commons app would need lots of love to continue to be worth
advertising
as a mainline app. It's not been updated
since October, and code rot sets
in after a while (I can easily reproduce crashes when logging in with an
account that has pre-existing uploads, which it tries to display for
convenience but quickly chokes on). With the small app team we have, our
focus is mainly on the official Wikipedia apps right now, which are
already
quite solid and receiving very positive reviews,
esp. the Android app.
[1]
The team is discussing whether the Commons app
should be sunset (which
would still leave open the option of community maintainership) based on
the
numbers, and will be posting an update later this
week.
Erik
[1]
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.wikipedia
Hi Erik,
The Wikipedia app description includes "Share: Use your existing
social networking apps to share in the sum of all human knowledge."
Does it support uploading media to Commons?
Does it fix the problems with the official Commons app?
If so, can they share a library which would allow the Commons app to
be more of a specialised front-end to the same functionality that the
WMF mobile apps team are developing for Wikipedia?
--
John Vandenberg
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