Hello, Lisa.
Could you, please, provide us with more details?
- why did it happen just now though restrictions due to the US sanctions
were I'mposed quite a long time ago? Probably, you have received some
warning from authorities, haven't you?
- what is the exact problem and applicable legislative restriction? Have
your bank stopped processing of payments from Russia or have something else
happen?
- is it an indefinite stop of fundraising here (till the end of sanctions)?
You know, relations between Russia and the US are not in their perfect
state and this a sensitive question where we need maximum of information to
make readers believe that it is not a political campaign of US-based WMF .
rubin16
13 нояб. 2014 г. 6:46 пользователь "Lisa Gruwell"
<lgruwell(a)wikimedia.org>
написал:
Hello rubin16,
We are not running fundraising in Russia at this time, but I want to assure
you that this was not a decision motivated by politics.
We take compliance with appropriate laws very seriously in everything we
do. Out of an abundance of caution, we're not fundraising in Russia right
now.
Of course, the fact that we are not fundraising in Russia does and will not
have any impact at all on how the WMF continues to support the Russian
language Wikipedia, its sister projects, and the Russian Wikimedian
community.
Thank you,
Lisa Gruwell
On Wed, Nov 12, 2014 at 7:44 PM, rubin.happy <rubin.happy(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
There were no recent changes in sanctions and I
don't understand why this
turn off in donations happened just now.
Ideas about SWIFT kick out are not relevant here, as it was just a
discussion some months ago but no such action happened.
Furthermore, the sanctions were placed on particular companies and
individuals, there were no prohibitions against all financial relations.
So, I could understand if donations weren't accepted when they were sent
via a couple of banks under sanctions, but I want to repeat that there
is,
for example, no prohibition to receive money from
Russians.
rubin16
13 нояб. 2014 г. 4:01 пользователь "David Gerard" <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
написал:
I'm presuming this is sanctions against
Russia kicking in; all sorts
of business has been stopped dead in its tracks, not just charity
donations. There's even serious moves to kick Russia out of the SWIFT
network:
http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2014-09-04/ultimate-sanction-barring-r…
> It strikes me as quite unlikely that
there's anything at all WMF can
> actually do about this. Possibly it could have been handled better,
> but that won't change the fact.
>
> On 13 November 2014 00:12, Craig Franklin <cfranklin(a)halonetwork.net>
> wrote:
> > I'm sure that you're correct here Joseph, but this is another
example I
think where the Foundation should have notified the
relevant chapter
*before* taking the action, so that they would be ready when the
questions
> started rolling in.
>
> Unfortunately, I think we're getting back to the bad old days of
chapter
> and user group press contacts being the last
people to find out about
> potentially controversial issues like this.
>
> Regards,
> Craig Franklin
> (personal view only)
>
>
> On 13 November 2014 10:07, Joseph Seddon <josephseddon(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >> I would hate to preclude any answer from the foundation. However the
> laws
> >> that govern the foundation are that of the US. Given the previous
and
> >> renewed ongoing palaver with
Ukraine and the presence of economic
> sanctions
> >> and the increasing likelihood of on top of what is already present,
I
> >> imagine this related to that.
> >>
> >> Im not sure of what legal risks accepting such donations would
expose
> the
> >> foundation to. However such precautions have been made in the past
> relating
> >> to unrest.
> >>
> >> Its no slight on the country or its individuals, just a
precautionary
> measure.
>
> Seddon
> On 12 Nov 2014 19:48, "Federico Leva (Nemo)" <nemowiki(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>>> rubin.happy, 12/11/2014 18:48:
>>>
>>>> We received some alerts from our users that donations are now
blocked
> >>>> when user is from Russia:
> >>>>
>
http://habrastorage.org/files/31b/b1f/ec9/31bb1fec9b9e45abb6ac4babcc2371
>>> 84.png
>>>
>>
>> Thanks for the information. Everyone can see the same warning by
clicking
>>> the "Russia" link in
https://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Ways_to_Give
> >>> Through what channels are donations blocked? Did anyone try
sending a
>> wire to the EU (SEPA) account (IBAN
GB54CHAS60924241034640), or a
PayPal
>>> donation?
>>>
>>> Nemo
>>>
>>> P.s.: ROTFLOL "Please email donate(a)wikimedia.org for more
information
> on
> >>> how to make a bank transfer to the Wikimedia Foundation." In case
> someone
> >>> forgets there is an ocean between Europe and USA.
> >>>
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