On 24 May 2014 00:06, Wil Sinclair <wllm(a)wllm.com> wrote:
OK, can you
explain why you participate on Wikipediocracy?
Thanks, Edward! I was starting to worry that no one would ask.
Doesn't it strike you as odd that the question came from an active
wikipediocracy memeber?
I participate on WO because I think every voice
deserves to be heard.
And I will go wherever people feel comfortable speaking freely to hear
them.
You know where 4chan is I assume.
The trash talk. . . Most of the concerns I've heard about WO involve
the snarky, personal comments that are front and
center in the forums.
I know this makes it very difficult for many people to listen to
anything else they have to say. I've called them out on this a few
times, but I was reminded that everyone is there for different reasons
and the trash talk somehow works for a few of them. What can I say?
The great thing about free speech is that everyone is free to say
anything. The only thing I can think of that might be better is that
everyone is free to ignore anything. ;)
Again you cite free speech. In effect you're saying that the most
compelling thing you can say for your activity is that it's not literally
illegal (XKCD 1357 alt text)
Beyond the trash talk are some very real concerns from
some very
insightful people.
Thats your opinion. Wikipedia is a fairly mature project at this point. We
are where we are as the result of over a decade of refinement by thousands
of people with each of those refinements destruction tested against
whatever the internet can throw at them.
If you're concerned about whether I'm getting
accurate information, I don't take for granted anything said there
without a secondary source- just like anything said here. Some of the
concerns I've heard there seem to be taboo in the mainstream WP
community.
Given the size of the project and your fairly breath interaction with it
what makes you think that you are in a position to make that judgement?
It's very interesting that WO was brought up when
I asked
about Child Protection Policies, for example.
Not really. The issue had already been brought up on a thread on
wikipediocracy that you were posting on. Makes your claim that "I'm just
asking what the current policies are." lack a certain credibility.
Harassment Policy is
another issue that seems to be unwelcome in some forums.
The relevant talk page has over 100 entries in its archives.
Finally, I ask everyone to respect my own right to
free speech.
I'm not aware of anyone planning to have you arrested. The US right to free
speech involves governments something wikipedia is not. Sure wikipedia is
pretty extreme on the spectrum on the degree of speech is will allow but
that doesn't change the fact your right to free speech is between you and
your government.
I'm hoping to get to know all of the people in
this forum better.
This is a mailing list for dealing with cross project issues. It isn't for
getting to know people.
It's
harder for me to follow along here because a lot of the stuff is very
specific and often discussed with little context. I'll catch up. In
the meantime, I'll continue asking questions,some of which may be
inconvenient.
Eh as long as you stick to the relevant venue which is not really this
mailing list. This is for people who already have the knowledge base and
are trying to move into genuinely new areas or have hit an issue that can't
be dealt with through the usual project level channels.
Like I said, I am not Lila; I'm that guy who asks
stuff
while everyone else is hoping he just keeps his mouth shut. :P
So not an editor?
--
geni