On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 8:23 PM, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
This is really helpful.
To clarify:
Is it correct that each project/subdomain of Wikipedia and Wikimedia has its own, potentially unique Child Protection Policy? How many of those policies are marked as "Proposed"? Are the "Proposed" policies enforced? Are there projects/subdomains of Wikipedia and Wikimedia that have no Child Protection Policy at all?
I'll follow up on the issue of harassment policy in another thread, since it seems like Child Protection Policy has been addressed specifically with its own policies.
Thanks, all! ,Wil
Hi Will,
See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Policies_and_guidelines for how policies on Wikipedia "work". The Terms of Service Federico pointed at are probably "different", but I don't know how different.
--Martijn
On Fri, May 23, 2014 at 10:48 AM, Andrew Gray andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk wrote:
I suppose the caveat would be that what actually happens may be *broader* than the policy suggests, if anything (eg deleting personal information on a pre-emptive basis)
On the English Wikipedia, see also
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Protecting_children%27s_privacy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Guidance_for_younger_editors https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Advice_for_parents
In addition to the English Wikipedia policy, note that there's versions on four other wikis, as well. Catalan notes that theirs was "adaptat de l'anglesa i de Commons", so probably close in general content, and judging by the dates on them I suspect the others had a similar source, but you may want to check this.
The Commons policy is at:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Child_protection
- also adapted from enwiki but marked as 'proposed'.
There's a policy also marked as "proposed" on meta, dating from 2010; however, as it quotes the terms of service, I think we can reasonably conclude that the content does have the force of policy despite this tag :-)
https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Child_protection
The Wikimedia-wide terms of use were formally codified in 2012 (there had been ToU before then, but they mostly dealt with copyright issues) and do include relevant material in Section 4. But I know this has been a topic raised on many occasions well before 2010-2012...
Andrew.
On 23 May 2014 18:34, George William Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
wrote:
On May 23, 2014, at 10:09 AM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
On 23 May 2014 13:05, Wil Sinclair wllm@wllm.com wrote:
Is the following a full statement of Wikipedia's Child Protection Policy, reflecting all responsibilities that the Wikipedia community and the Wikimedia Foundation have taken on to protect children in all of the projects they are involved with and/or sponsor?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
Are there any other *published* policies of WP or the WMF pertaining to child protection that I might have missed?
I know that this is a very politically charged issue in the WP community. I'd appreciate a high light:heat ratio if anyone has comments beyond links to current policy statements.
Thanks! ,Wil
English Wikipedia policy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Child_protection
The existence of a 'formalized' policy has been a topic of heated
debate
since its creation, although there is some truth that its original form more or less documented existing practice at the time.
Risker/Anne
Right.
I can guarantee you that the policy more or less as written will be
implemented by most senior experienced admins. It documented existing very poorly publicized informal practice in that regard.
There is and has been much controversy as to whether it's good, fair,
reasonable, appropriate.
As with the responding to threats of harm essay (originally responding
to threats of suicide, now expanded), there were considerable theory based top down discussions that did not resolve, followed by someone documenting what was actually being done most of the time and that settling is as precedent.
This is perhaps not the best process. However, even in the absence of
total community support on these issues, admins and arbcom and senior community members will act to protect individual people and the community and encyclopedia and foundation. It seems to be agreed that documenting usual parameters for that, so people understand the usual responses, was a net positive.
-george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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