I don't think the costs are the issue here, neither if there is streaming
or not (and I don't think we need to have one. It's WMCconf, not Wikimania).
But we have strict rule - two representatives, 3 if you have ED. I also saw
that some chapters have more than that, and I really don't know why. If
they are coming as speakers to one of the sessions - I hope their
participation and attending in the venue area will be limit only to this
session only (and then it will be really waste of money). This is also
relevant by the way (from my point of view) to WMDE staff/board that are
not part of conference staff.
On Mon, Mar 31, 2014 at 4:08 PM, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
Hoi,
When there is enough money to go around, efficacy should be the primary
consideration. When charitable funds are available and they are not spend
because of misplaced frugality, it is obvious to me that priorities are out
of kilter.
Your second arguments makes more sense but also up to a point. When the
bigger chapters are more able to do what is right by all chapters, it means
that they should be present and listen more and impose less. When the
German chapter sends fewer people, it does not imply that what these people
have to say carries less weight. When fewer people mean that the existing
needs for us as a world community are not heard, it is not effective at
all. When people are effective at a conference and are the ones who decide
on how to move forward, where to spend money they should be at the
conferences where the combined efforts may be aligned.
Money should only be a consideration when there is not enough and when it
is not spend effectively.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 31 March 2014 14:34, Fæ <faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 31 March 2014 12:02, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> Hoi,
> Video conferencing is ok-ish.. at best. It does not give you the
> opportunity that face to face communications gives you. It does not
allow
you to
get through the fog of misunderstanding, Really, when the right
people go for the right reasons, it pays its dividents.
Cost is only one criteria to measure things by. What would you consider
as
relevant for more people to go ?
Thanks,
Gerard
Yes absolute cost is only one measure, but should remain a primary one
when judging if the charitable funds of our movement are being spent
wisely.
Another consideration is past concern from smaller chapters that this
meeting was being overwhelmed with the viewpoint of the larger and
better funded chapters that found it easiest to travel to Berlin, or
pay employees to attend. This is probably a reason why the German
chapter, compared to the UK chapter, is sending a relatively modest
number of people to represent their chapter at the conference they are
actually hosting.
Fae
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