Hi,
2014-06-22 16:00 GMT+05:30 Tomasz Ganicz polimerek@gmail.com:
It is a bit crazy :-) The use to be copyright holder of these files is Israeli goverment. But according to the goverment it does not claim any copyrights as it clearly stated that the these files are not copyrightable, and it is no longer copyright holder. One can have an assumption that next Israeli government may change its mind. But the government can change the mind even if it releases these pictures under CC-0 waiver. In most jurisdictions the licenses can be revoked and the non-revocable clauses in CC and GNU/FAL licenses have no any legal value.
I mean the absolute attitude of Commons towards copyright freedom of media hardly make any sense in most jurisdictions. It ignores many facts and is sticked to some others without clear reasons. This not an absolute as in absolute terms there is no any single media about which one can say it is free globally with 100% certainty, and also it is not any practical attitude really preventing our re-users from legal problems, as we mainly ignore non-copyright legal issues. This is rather a derivative of long discussions on Commons which are subject of group thinking syndrome, which made some arguments kind of dogma .
Yes, good point, and that's exactly what I am saying all the time. ;oD Nevertheless a number of admins and non-admins on Commons still insist that every files on Commons should be free globally with 100% certainty. I think this is a poor understanding of how copyright law works.
2014-06-22 12:07 GMT+02:00 Andre Engels andreengels@gmail.com:
So you want them to have a letter "You are allowed to use these images that you are allowed to use" but if the letter says that the reason that they're allowed to use it is that they are allowed to use it, it is not valid.
Shouldn't we be welcoming free content rather than inventing far out reasons to think why they maybe in some way are not free and thus delete them?
Yeah. I think we need to assume good faith, even from the Isreali government. ;oD
Anyway, I think that the matter was handled very poorly by Russavia, who started the deletion request. As I said there, a request to the IDF could have been sent before, and the DR open only later if a negative answer is received.
Regards,
Yann