you know that we agree on most topics lodewijk. but on this one we do not
:) i d be glad if i can make a picture of something by what i read and not
by what i am allowed to read by an arbitrary list moderator, who probably
does not even have my cultural context.
if somebody does write too often without adding value anybody on the list
is free to drop a private mail to this person. this works. especially this
works with russavia.
rupert.
Am 19.06.2014 09:20 schrieb "Lodewijk" <lodewijk(a)effeietsanders.org>rg>:
Please note that moderation is not a punishment: it is
imposed as a measure
to avoid future posts within a certain pattern of expectation when there
are reasonable grounds to do so.
I think many people will agree that Russavia has been uncivil on quite a
few occasios - I would even go as far as that I'm not surprised any more if
(s)he is uncivil on this list. Therefore, I think there is a reasonable
expectation that the pattern will continue - and I find it acceptable to
moderate a person in such a situation to ensure future posts will be
posterboys of civilty (well, or at least somewhat moderate).
I'm confident that the list moderators will moderate timely, will let
through decent posts that approach civilty and that they will remove the
moderation once the expectation of uncivil posts has been reversed (for
example, when Russavia stopped making them).
I do second the insinuated requests by Tomasz and Fae that other people
should be held to the same standards in the future, and they be moderated
too when a pattern of uncivil behavior develops.
Best,
Lodewijk
2014-06-19 1:31 GMT+02:00 Nathan <nawrich(a)gmail.com>om>:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 7:19 PM, Fæ
<faewik(a)gmail.com> wrote:
I have taken a moment to find a relevant reference to back up my
memory, see [1] which shows Salvio giuliano vigorously defending his
use of the word "butthurt". Salvio giulano is a current English
Wikipedia Arbcom member. I have not bothered to research further use
of this word by other current or past Arbcom members.
I think most readers of this list will find it odd to see that
"butthurt" used in a mild and colourful context on this list by
Russavia, gets highlighted and becomes a matter of objection by
Newyorkbrad, a current Arbcom member, resulting in Russavia being
moderated for an unspecified duration, while another Arbcom member has
previously stated that his use of the same rude word is perfectly
appropriate and legitimate public behaviour for himself in the rough
and tumble of frank discussion.
Could the rationale for moderation be restated please, so that
Russavia better understands what was unacceptable about his post here,
and could we please have an idea as to what duration moderation is
expected?
Links
1.
PS I have not discussed this email with Russavia, nor has Russavia
canvassed me about it.
Fae
--
faewik(a)gmail.com
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae
This is the same discussion where you described using the word butthurt
as
offensive in any context, inflammatory, uncivil,
disrespectful and
possibly
defamatory? What, again, was your complaint with
Russavia being moderated
for writing it?
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