It would just have to be ported to Commons once there's a native WIkiBase installation. If it will be ported at all.
Is it really worth the fuss, so we can tinker for a few months? (I would genuinely like to know!)
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 4:00 PM, Pierre-Selim pierre-selim@huard.info wrote:
2014-06-18 16:58 GMT+02:00 Magnus Manske magnusmanske@googlemail.com:
The issue here seems to be "political/community" rather than technology.
I
could probably set up a MediaWiki installation with WikiBase plugin on
Tool
Labs within a day or so, then have a bot create/synchronize an item for each file on Commons. Community could start to create properties, and
bots
could fill in basic statements.
That said, I'm not doing that. First, no time. Second, ire of the WMF for making them scramble to re-create my stuff yet again ;-)
And if we say "please" ?
Cheers, Magnus
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:32 PM, David Cuenca dacuetu@gmail.com wrote:
On Wed, Jun 18, 2014 at 3:33 PM, Fæ faewik@gmail.com wrote:
At the current time, I have yet to see how the Wikidata theoretical use improves finding images on Commons today. After regularly getting emails over the past two years raising expectations of how these problems will be solved through Wikidata, I have yet to be involved
or
invited to join any Commons based Wikidata project, despite being currently the most active unpaid volunteer uploader for Commons.
There is; https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikidata https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wikidata_for_media_info https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikimedia_Commons
I formally invite you to take a look and join the discussions if you
feel
like :-)
One of my particular interests was sorting out the Geograph project where I added meaningful place categories to images (around a million images). Last year I deliberately deferred continuing improvements
and
new uploads based on suggestions of how Wikidata was going to revolutionise the way this worked. As far as I am aware, there is still no published plan to help with identifying Commons categories with places using Wikidata; indeed for projects like our Avionics batch uploads (which rely on Airport categories and their locations)
I
have been told the opposite, to no longer expect, nor wait, for this to be sorted out and I am likely to revise my Geograph work without any plans to incorporate Wikidata, or work with Wikidata.
You would need a lua template to do a bit of triangulation:
- From the linked Commons category to the Wikidata item you fetch the
statements 2. One of those statements should be "category's main topic (P301)" 3. From the linked item, you can extract the location data
This should be possible once this bug is implemented https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=47930
I don't much about the Geograph project, but perhaps your work might be compatible with a future deployment of "wikidata for media info"?
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