Buddy I would support more common sense, some people on the list just don't think twice before hitting send, that's the way you start a wildfire. This has become an unmoderated forum full of people who seemingly doesn't remember that there are better ways or places to say to another "I hate you". Really everyone should ask themselves before hitting send some of this questions: "Does this serves a good purpose?" "Is it going to do any good?" "Will it cause unnecessary conflict?" "It is written in a proper and polite way?" Being emotional and eager to say something is not so good here, it's a mail list, you can take your time, be as polite as possible, and use your common sense, or else this will get worse.
Dennis Pierri
On 16/06/2014, at 00:01, Jasper Deng jasper@jasperswebsite.com wrote:
I would support increased moderation too, except that sockpuppetry on email lists is trivial (do we really want to go into the mess of implementing CheckUser for email headers?).
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 9:24 PM, Rodrigo Tetsuo Argenton < rodrigo.argenton@gmail.com> wrote:
But this behaviour that you are saying is so Wikimedia Movement, the name is totally correct. And expect a block, because they are free, but they "need to act in the name of the community, to stop 'trolls'". ;)
On 16 June 2014 00:51, Dennis Pierri dennis6492@gmail.com wrote:
Agreed, this list has seen too much personal confrontation, fights and general shit and nothing really productive lately, by the way, be ready for the shit storm from those who feel alluded.
On Sun, Jun 15, 2014 at 10:33 PM, billinghurst billinghurst@gmail.com wrote:
I am looking for a productive mailing list that discusses matters of importance to the Wikimedia community. That the people on such a list
can
have these discussions politely, respectfully, and with concern for
others
in that the words that say, and attitudes taken. I want to see announcements, I want to see a higher quality of conversation on what should be a flaglist in the mailing list space of Wikimedia.
We don't have it. One gets to the point of utter frustration with this list, and it is time that the backstabbers, frontstabbers,
bitchfighters,
venal, conceited, etc. need a place to kill each other with as much
venom
as possible, but not under the more impressive and specific name of wikimedia-l. So please rename this list, and take all its people to something befitting the behaviour seen. Then please produce a clean
list
for those who don't have to have the antics of these unbearable, egotistical, and apparently intolerant and chauvinistic people, and
please
don't let them join that list. They can have their shithole and revel
in
it. They know who they are and they would feel ashamed if they had a modicum of interest outside of themselves.
If that is not possible, then those of who us who want a higher quality discussion will unsubscribe, and be unrepresented and unheard. Another
win
for the trolls, and a sad reflection on the direction.
Regards, Billinghurst
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