On 14 June 2014 14:22, Richard Ames richard@ames.id.au wrote:
I have set the moderation bit on Russavia's address for a limited time. I've asked Russavia to focus on issues only; in the spirit of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Civility
Hi Richard, thanks for specifying a reason for moderation. Could you define what you intend "limited time" to be, particularly as I believe there is no public appeals process. A month of moderation given "acceptable use"?
I do NOT find the word "butthurt" in any discussion acceptable, it would be a reason for me to stop reading. However this is my "thin skin" which I have been subject to robust public criticism for. Were Russavia to ask me for advice on these things, I would ask that he avoid vulgarity, it only distracts from the real points he wants to make, which on the whole I find benefit the Wikimedia movement, especially when we compare Russavia's dynamic actions to support meaningful free speech, which based on recent press interviews is exactly the same goal as Jimmy Wales.
With regard to the rationale for moderation, I would like to point out that from *my human memory*, some current or past English Wikipedia Arbcom members have used the word "butthurt" to describe other editors. In comparison the far more disruptive and offensive word "fuck" or telling editors to "fuck off" seems supported as appropriate by the community of editors, based on discussions this year as well as in the past (I'm recalling a discussion that was on Jimbo's talk page and a thread on ANI when an editor used these words against Russavia). Perhaps someone could track down an example(s) of current or past Arbcom members using "butthurt", as it will take me a few days to get around to running a search from scratch to provide a diff? Anyway, I'm certain that although the civility policy mentions "rudeness", if asked, Arbcom would not object to "butthurt" as a colloquialism in discussion.
As this moderation appears based on the English Wikipedia's guideline for civility, it would seem odd to moderate Russavia's access to this list for using a word that the most trusted of Wikipedia contributors use themselves, and defend the use by others, when they interpret the civility guidelines. Perhaps you might think of re-stating the rationale?
Thanks, Fae