Hi Matanya
I'm sure there are others with more expertise than me on this list but a) isn't
Commons the place to start this process, and b) have you looked at Michael Maggs'
proposal (see email copied below from April) to relax the scope of the precautionary
principle? That, and the discussion there, might be a good start.
Best
Simon
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[mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Michael Maggs
Sent: 09 April 2014 18:44
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Subject: [Wikimedia-l] New Commons RFC on changing the Precautionary principle to tackle
the URAA problem
I have made a proposal to relax the scope of the Commons so-called Precautionary principle
to allow the site to host more of the locally public domain files that are being deleted
because of the US URAA law, and also to keep more photos that have freedom of panorama in
their home country but which might (or might not) be copyright-protected in the US.
This proposal comes out of an extremely long and complicated argument about copyright,
which you don't necessarily need to get into, but it is an attempt to allow Commons to
host more media files while at the same time ensuring that the site remains fully legal
under US law. We can legally take a much more nuanced position than 'Definitely
Free' or 'Definitely Unfree', which is pretty much what we do at present.
Some editors have suggested ignoring US law, which the WMF simply cannot allow to happen,
and this is an attempt to allow us to keep more non-US Public Domain material while still
remaining on the right side of US law.
Put simply, do you agree that Commons should aim to host more files that are public domain
in their home country even if they *might* still be copyright-protected in the US?
Please contribute here:
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Review_of_Precautionary_principle
Michael
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[mailto:wikimedia-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of matanya
Sent: 08 June 2014 12:21
To: wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Commons and OCILLA
Hello,
Commons licensing policy determines media should be free in source country and in US. I
want to propose We change the policy to be: "free in source country" only, and
to cope with US laws where the servers are hosted found a "DMCA take down
notice" Team in OTRS, that will handle requests to remove Items that are non-free in
the US after verifying proper grounds for the claim.
This approach to copyright will prevent issues like URAA issues, shorter term issues and
restored copyright issues.
It will enrich commons with many files that are FREE (mostly PD) in source country, but
not on commons due to US laws. Unless the copyright holder (mostly Gov's and archives)
will not request removal, and they won't since they released the media, we will be
using those files.
I'm not a lawyer, so I probably missed most of the legal implication, But I do
volunteer to found and lead the team, if this idea is accepted and commons community would
want this policy change. I'm seeking input from copyright experienced users and
lawyers, before i start an official policy change on commons.
Thanks
Matanya Moses
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